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Do You Live In A Political Bubble?

Hey guys, the system is failing the white people angrily watching the same clips of Portland over and over again on Fox News but the system was just fine for the people in the streets protesting.

jhmd, if you want to be taken seriously, argue facts. The vast majority of protests were peaceful. The vast majority of people arrested weren’t charged. Protests were about legitimate issues with how government interacts with citizens.

Meanwhile Jan 6 was sedition in service of a lie. You’re making another bad faith false equivalency.
 
Hey guys, the system is failing the white people angrily watching the same clips of Portland over and over again on Fox News but the system was just fine for the people in the streets protesting.

jhmd, if you want to be taken seriously, argue facts. The vast majority of protests were peaceful. The vast majority of people arrested weren’t charged. Protests were about legitimate issues with how government interacts with citizens.

Meanwhile Jan 6 was sedition in service of a lie. You’re making another bad faith false equivalency.

It is a fact that if you burn a city block to the ground you are not acting in a peaceful manner. When someone says it is, that person is lying. The fact that there are other protests elsewhere does not turn arson into pacifism.

If you want to make the good riots/bad riots argument, go find someone who thinks that. I am against BOTH riots (even if they started peaceful).

Let's assume that your worldview is correct: Dems good, Pubs bad. You can still be "good" and got about it in the wrong manner. Fact.
 
How many protesters were there? How many city blocks “burned to the ground?” Deal in facts or otherwise people will think you’re not intelligent enough to know or understand the truth.
 
Ph did you see many Biden 2020 flags during those protests? You hear Biden egging them on and encouraging them to do it? I sure didn’t.
 
The nation has 74 million white nationalists? That's your theory?

The 74 million are either white nationalists or they are willing to chill with white nationalism as long as there are fewer abortions and fewer taxes.
 
How many protesters were there? How many city blocks “burned to the ground?” Deal in facts or otherwise people will think you’re not intelligent enough to know or understand the truth.

So there weren't riots last summer? That didn't happen?
 
Hey guys, the system is failing the white people angrily watching the same clips of Portland over and over again on Fox News but the system was just fine for the people in the streets protesting.

jhmd, if you want to be taken seriously, argue facts. The vast majority of protests were peaceful. The vast majority of people arrested weren’t charged. Protests were about legitimate issues with how government interacts with citizens.

Meanwhile Jan 6 was sedition in service of a lie. You’re making another bad faith false equivalency.



This.

Republican passions and actions are largely manifestations of fevered imaginations fed by selfish asshole “leaders”.
 
Notice how jhmd won’t simply answer a question. He just offers non sequitors or answers with a question. He won’t even make a well-constructed bad faith argument.
 
Ph did you see many Biden 2020 flags during those protests? You hear Biden egging them on and encouraging them to do it? I sure didn’t.

I don’t even remember seeing Biden shirts or hats or masks.
 
You just said this:

Notice how jhmd won’t simply answer a question. He just offers non sequitors or answers with a question. He won’t even make a well-constructed bad faith argument.

Earlier in this thread you said this:

jhmd, do you think Biden truly won the election or do you agree with 70% of your party who thinks Trump truly won?

Your buddy said this:

Good luck getting a simple yes/no out of him on this.

But then I said this and then asked you that:

Biden won the Presidency in 2020, fair and square. You won't get any crying from me.

Who do you think won the Presidency in 2016?

To his credit, your buddy said this:

I stand corrected. You CAN answer a yes/no question simply.

Now I don't recall your answer to my question, which makes your most recent accusation another brick in the self-unawareness wall.
 
Upgrade by answering something that isn't a yes/no question.

I don't answer answers posed as unrelated questions.

You need to do the basic things required to have a reasonable discussion. Use facts. Answer questions with researched facts, informed opinions, or at least a good faith answer. Even if you have a wrong answer, you're trying.

As far as the questions I posted here are the answers which you could have easily googled.

93% of protests were peaceful: https://acleddata.com/2020/09/03/de...violence-in-america-new-data-for-summer-2020/

[h=4]An Overwhelmingly Peaceful Movement[/h]
The vast majority of demonstration events associated with the BLM movement are non-violent (see map below). In more than 93% of all demonstrations connected to the movement, demonstrators have not engaged in violence or destructive activity. Peaceful protests are reported in over 2,400 distinct locations around the country. Violent demonstrations,[SUP]4[/SUP] meanwhile, have been limited to fewer than 220 locations — under 10% of the areas that experienced peaceful protests. In many urban areas like Portland, Oregon, for example, which has seen sustained unrest since Floyd’s killing, violent demonstrations are largely confined to specific blocks, rather than dispersed throughout the city (CNN, 1 September 2020).

Now I don't know your angle. You may be intentionally misrepresenting last summer. You could be purposefully using bad information. Or maybe you just believe everything you see in conservative media. I don't know. But the facts are out there.

Yet, despite data indicating that demonstrations associated with the BLM movement are overwhelmingly peaceful, one recent poll suggested that 42% of respondents believe “most protesters [associated with the BLM movement] are trying to incite violence or destroy property” (FiveThirtyEight, 5 June 2020). This is in line with the Civiqs tracking poll which finds that “net approval for the Black Lives Matter movement peaked back on June 3 [the week following the killing of George Floyd when riots first began to be reported] and has fallen sharply since” (USA Today, 31 August 2020; Civiqs, 29 August 2020).
Research from the University of Washington indicates that this disparity stems from political orientation and biased media framing (Washington Post, 24 August 2020), such as disproportionate coverage of violent demonstrations (Business Insider, 11 June 2020; Poynter, 25 June 2020). Groups like the Anti-Defamation League (ADL) have documented organized disinformation campaigns aimed at spreading a “deliberate mischaracterization of groups or movements [involved in the protests], such as portraying activists who support Black Lives Matter as violent extremists or claiming that antifa is a terrorist organization coordinated or manipulated by nebulous external forces” (ADL, 2020). These disinformation campaigns may be contributing to the decline in public support for the BLM movement after the initial increase following Floyd’s killing, especially amongst the white population (USA Today, 31 August 2020; Civiqs, 30 August 2020a, 30 August 2020b). This waning support also comes as the Trump administration recently shifted its “law and order” messaging to target local Democratic Party politicians from urban areas, particularly on the campaign trail (NPR, 27 August 2020).


Over 90% of charges against protesters have been dropped.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/apr/17/george-floyd-protesters-charges-citations-analysis

But some prosecutors and law enforcement observers charge that departments carried out mass arrests as a crowd control tactic, as a means to silence peaceful protesters, and as a public relations strategy designed to turn the public against demonstrators by making them appear more violent than they were. And what’s more – some of the citing officers never witnessed the protests in the first place.
“It sends a message that you might get arrested if you express your views and first amendment rights,” said Vera Eidelman, staff attorney with the ACLU’s speech, privacy and technology project. “Police absolutely should not be relying on mass arrests to control a crowd or silence people who they disagree with.”
 
Judging from Woke's posts on the past couple of pages, it seems that: 1) It's the Democrats fault that Republicans voted for Trump because they just wanted to give the middle finger to the Dem Establishment for not caring about them, the poor things (basically the same argument that bkf used after the 2016 elections), and that racism/homophobia/sexism/white nationalism had little or nothing to do with his election and support, and 2) Some violent riots in some areas of the country last summer protesting police violence (and a few Dem pols expressing support or sympathy to some extent for said riots) is the equivalent and no different to the President of the United States falsely claiming to have been cheated out of his election and urging thousands of protestors to storm the Capitol and damn near kill members of Congress while looting the place in one of the worst acts of political violence in US history. And, moreover, many members of his party since the 1/6 insurrection have attempted to either defend or downplay the severity of what actually happened. But it's all the same, and Democrats are no better than Republicans. So why not vote Republican, amirite?
 
Judging from Woke's posts on the past couple of pages, it seems that: 1) It's the Democrats fault that Republicans voted for Trump because they just wanted to give the middle finger to the Dem Establishment for not caring about them, the poor things (basically the same argument that bkf used after the 2016 elections), and that racism/homophobia/sexism/white nationalism had little or nothing to do with his election and support, and 2) Some violent riots in some areas of the country last summer protesting police violence (and a few Dem pols expressing support or sympathy to some extent for said riots) is the equivalent and no different to the President of the United States falsely claiming to have been cheated out of his election and urging thousands of protestors to storm the Capitol and damn near kill members of Congress while looting the place in one of the worst acts of political violence in US history. And, moreover, many members of his party since the 1/6 insurrection have attempted to either defend or downplay the severity of what actually happened. But it's all the same, and Democrats are no better than Republicans. So why not vote Republican, amirite?

And he posts all this while lamenting the lack of good faith discussion in the Tunnels and simultaneously defending a political party that hasn’t made a good faith policy proposal since at least the 1980s.
 
And he posts all this while lamenting the lack of good faith discussion in the Tunnels and simultaneously defending a political party that hasn’t made a good faith policy proposal since at least the 1980s.

Even in this echo chamber people can't seriously think this. Hyperbole is a tell.
 
Notice how jhmd won’t simply answer a question. He just offers non sequitors or answers with a question. He won’t even make a well-constructed bad faith argument.

Holy shit this is the least self aware post in the history of OGBoards. Ph, you’ve made a boards career of this, homie. Narnia seems dope!
 
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