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Do You Live In A Political Bubble?

I think I misused “democrat” instead of progressive/liberal. I agree with you about the parties sucking (registered independent here)

But the positions you and I agree on wrt unions, drugs, healthcare, incarceration, gays, immigration, infrastructure, education, etc didn’t have a snowball’s chance in those states no matter what party held them. And that was absolutely the design of the GOP by using abortion, whacked out druggies, homosexual predators, and welfare moms as a cudgel to keep the electorate scared and therefore conservative/moderate.
 
WokeandBroke said:
Keep in mind that charter schools don't have counties. If you like one over the border in Randolph (IDK) you have as much right to apply to it as someone who lives in Randleman.
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It's not like the charters are great options either. I just feel like they can avoid the one size fits all model he is getting in school now.
 
WakeandBake said:
I think I misused “democrat” instead of progressive/liberal. I agree with you about the parties sucking (registered independent here).
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WFFaithful said:
Republicans: Government should stay out of my business. Bootstraps!
Also Republicans: Government has left us behind!
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The system is bigger than the government. Your thinking should be too.
 
Since Nixon/Reagan conservative crime and economic policy has prevailed and dragged the center way right. That's not revisionist history. The pendulum hasn't even swung close to the left yet.

The idea that white working class voters in the sun belt and rust belt were left behind by liberal policy is successful conservative messaging that disciples like jhmd bask in. Those voters have been played. :noidea:
 
voters continuously rebuked progressive policy changes like public healthcare every time it was tried.

People were getting the government they voted for.
 
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Your woman Virginia Foxx proudly went to see Trump this week. That pivot is still coming. I'm sure of it.
 
WakeandBake said:
Seriously, since 1988.
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These people are so fucking blindly dedicated to their GOP it’s hard for them to understand that the Tunnels is full of liberals and progressives that are not forever in love with the Democratic Party.
 
Colonel Angus said:
Lulz - Who was the last candidate Mr. Independent pulled the lever for with a (R) following his/her name?
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How you are registered and how you vote have little to do with each other, except in closed primary states like NC. I never wanted to be a member of any political party so I registered independent when I was 18 in NC and when I moved to IL I did the same.
 
This has effectively become jhmd’s self-imposed kanhoji thread. Some might view it as his personal bubble.
Really said to go to another school’s message board just to complain about the board you’ve chosen to frequent.

jh, you aren’t going to get many good faith responses until you stick around a bit and make a few decent arguments. Make an effort. Don’t expect to be a troll then have people immediately ready to engage you in good faith with your first attempts at the same.
 
birdman said:
These people are so fucking blindly dedicated to their GOP it’s hard for them to understand that the Tunnels is full of liberals and progressives that are not forever in love with the Democratic Party.
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I continue to be amused by the notion that there is no diversity and no dissent here. People on these boards have knock-down, drag-out arguments all the time here. Yes, most of the people here are liberals or progressives, but there's actually a wide variety of views within that spectrum, from slightly left-of-center to radical. But since conservatives aren't given affirmation and agreement then the entire board sucks and are a bunch of lemmings. Conservatives love to complain that liberals just don't "get it" but that cuts both ways, something they always fail to realize. When your side elects Donald J. Trump as its leader and the vast majority of your side adores him and almost everything he does, then it tends to undermine both your credibility and complaints that you just aren't being understood.
 
It’s not just Joe Biden that’s struggling to understand Republicans.

Republicans don’t understand Republicans.
 
WokeandBroke said:
Probably the easiest example is improving school choice for everyone, not just the people that can afford it (the current system). Education choice isn't just vouchers (many conservatives oppose vouchers), but funding and expanding charter schools (Free to all) should be an easy policy. Why not?
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Charter schools are nothing more than degree mills. No standards, no accountability. The GOP loves them because the dumber the populace is the easier it is to control them.

Kids who come out of charter schools are socially and intellectually stunted. I’d close every single one of them. Pure garbage.
 
WokeandBroke said:
The system is bigger than the government. Your thinking should be too.
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Farmers, most of whom voted for Trump, wouldn't seem to agree. Farm income in 2020 was the highest in seven years, and in terms of farm income 2020 was one of the 3 most profitable years in the last fifty for US agriculture. Farm income rose 43% in just one year. The problem? About 40% of that profit was solely due to vastly increased payments from the US government - payment rose to $46.5 billion from $22.4 billion in just one year. Using Republican rhetoric, that's socialism on an impressive scale, and US farmers apparently loved it. And it all came from Trump, as a way to keep farmers happy who were being hurt by his idiotic trade wars. And most of that government money goes to wealthier farmers in a relatively limited number of states - it's not evenly distributed. Most of Trump's base loves welfare and government handouts as long as they're the beneficiaries. Their problem is that sometimes people and groups they don't like also get government aid. And that's when it becomes a problem for them - not when they're the ones getting the goodies.

Link: https://www.cato.org/commentary/examining-americas-farm-subsidy-problem

Link: https://www.politico.com/news/2020/07/14/donald-trump-coronavirus-farmer-bailouts-359932
 
White farmers. Black farmers got disproportionately less than white farmers. That’s why Republicans liked it.
 
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