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    Pride going down…instead of trying to understand why and how can we do better…like maybe work with Dems to pass some needed and good shit…let’s just blame the libs! Much easier!
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    NC State Superintendent of Public Instruction Catherine Truitt spoke to a meeting of Orange County Republicans in which she told them “You all know that when the House filed their bill that would make critical race theory in our schools illegal, I stood up for that bill. I said I publicly supported it. I was quoted in the media as supporting it, much to the disappointment of a lot of people in the education community, because like I told you, Republicans don’t tend to work in the education community." (How nice for the NC Head of Public Schools to be proud of her isolation from and general ignorance of the very community she's been elected to lead!)

    “And so, what I can … this is what I know about critical race theory. This is an academic movement that started 30 or 40 years ago. I know my husband told me when he started law school there was this kind of group that was on its way out. You know you have like different kinds of legal theory? One of those were the ‘Crits.’ Those were the people who thought that critical race theory was a real thing worth discussing in the way that laws are racist. And but it wasn’t something that was really taken very seriously.”

    Her definition of critical theory: “It’s the idea that every aspect of American society is racist. That racism permeates every aspect of our society, even though we have laws that we have passed and enacted on the books that are moving us towards a more perfect union. Okay. That is what critical race theory is. Critical race theory proponents also believe that because those laws were in place in 1783, that they can never really be amended, and therefore our nation will always be flawed. And that, my friends, goes against my core belief as a Christian.” "As your superintendent, I will continue to do everything I can to stop CRT and eradicate it from classrooms. Republicans in NC are united on this."

    She seems far more interested in being a leader in the NC Republican Party and pandering to her base than in being a leader in education or in protecting teachers. Sweet.

    Link: https://www.ednc.org/2021-06-15-from...2d0e-276055278

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    None of that has to do with being a Christian.

    Chapel Hill student body president: It’s past time for a genuine reckoning at UNC

    http://www.ncpolicywatch.com/2021/06/17/chapel-hill-student-body-president-its-past-time-for-a-genuine-reckoning-at-unc/

    Dear Carolina Community,
    When I arrived at the meeting venue on the morning of my swearing-in as a member of the UNC Board of Trustees, I pulled up to the valet and proceeded to exit my car – at which point, the valet stopped me and said, “Sir, this valet is for members and patrons only. Protestors are standing over there.”
    Yes, I was in a full suit and tie. Yes, I had been elected Student Body President of our university earlier this year. And, yes, I was just moments away from being sworn in as a university trustee. The valet, however, still asked for my ID before walking inside to confirm that I was, in fact, who I said I was. I got out of my car, grabbed my briefcase, and headed inside.
    But before I walked off, I stood and watched through the glass doors as other cars pulled in. One by one, as the valet opened car doors, individuals got out, nodded their heads, and headed into the building without a single word spoken. As I walked into the boardroom, it hit me: I was entering this space as one of the only people of color to serve as a trustee of the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill.
    You cannot reform a system rooted in oppression, racism, and hatred. Tragically, the term “reform” at this university continues to be used as a subtle tactic to oppress students, faculty, and staff—past, present, and future alike.
    UNC has continually fallen short of meeting the challenge of serving each and every one of its students. Students of color must speak twice as loud just to be heard at the same volume; graduate students, especially those of color, are treated as modern-day servants, barely paid minimum wage; our staff and faculty of color are overworked and underpaid, treated like property.
    The sincerest thing I can share with each of you is that Carolina is not prepared. Carolina is not prepared for the “reckoning” of which it continues to speak and it is certainly not prepared to face the reality of having to undo the entire system upon which it was built—and rebuild.
    Until this rebirth occurs, Carolina is not deserving of your talents, aspirations, or successes. If you are a student, staff member, or academic from a historically marginalized identity exploring UNC, I invite you to look elsewhere. If you are considering graduate school, law school, medical school, or other professional programs at UNC, I challenge you to seek other options. While Carolina desperately needs your representation and cultural contributions, it will only bring you here to tokenize and exploit you. And to those that will attempt to misconstrue these words—my words—understand this: I love Carolina, yes, but I love my people and my community more.
    And so in the days ahead, I invite and encourage you to pay close attention not only to who speaks—but who fails to speak. Pay close attention to how many times our university responds with an acknowledgment of uncertain and unparalleled times, asking how students “feel” and what it can “do” for students, before making decision and taking stances that are in direct opposition to student views, suggestions, and interests.
    Most importantly, examine how Carolina shifts blame to other entities; then, analyze closely what decisions are made or are not made by our university and question why. The soul of our university is at stake—and Carolina is not prepared.
    I urge you all: protect yourself. Protect your peace. Protect your wellness—and brace for reckoning.
    Yours for Carolina—today, tomorrow, and always,
    Lamar Gregory Richards
    Student Body President
    Trustee, UNC-CH Board of Trustees

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    Banning Critical Race Theory

    It's OK. I am getting tired of white people on the left and right who are so desperate to connect Black scholarship and political thought on Marxism as if we can't come up with good shit on our own. Ganz even trips over himself trying to do it.

    Leftists shouldn't be ashamed of calling CRT Marxist!!!
    It does in fact call upon Marxist scholars and the European tradition of critical theory, and liberals and leftists do not do themselves any favors by trying to deny this. This is just old fashioned red-baiting. The correct response to that is, “So what? What’s wrong with Marxism?”
    Oh. CRT isn't uniformly Marxist. It's more diverse and nuanced.
    I recently read a collection of essays by the big Critical Race Theorists. I found they are really not that radical. In more than one essay the authors actually defended the liberal order of rights and a kind of constitutional patriotism against the more traditionally Marxian Critical Legal Theorist movement, because of the success minorities in gaining recognition and power through the liberal discourses of rights and democracy.
    Ah yes. It’s actually kind of shitty to suggest Black people need dead white guys to help them understand their own struggles and mobilize.
    The point of all this is to deal with actual tensions and conflicts of society on the level of ideology: so instead of racism, there is “racism” the problem created by evil CRT practitioners, instead of actual inequality and class-struggle, there are just the divisive ideas of evil Marxists. And more to the point: The George Floyd uprising, rather than being a genuine outpouring of popular outrage over a racist murder, is now just the product of agitation of these wicked agents spreading their poison. There’s an easy answer to every problem: “It’s those goddamn CRTs again.”
    He does inch toward begging the question of why the left doesn't call this neo-McCarthyism. That's certainly more palatable than calling an entire conservative movement neo-Nazism. McCarthyism happened not that long ago and it was pushed by the ideological fathers and real life mentors of current conservatives. The left needs to go on offense against conservatives at some point.
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    uh just read Robinson's book? one of the best critiques of Marx/marxism ever written
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    Paraphrasing a Baptist pastor:

    The danger with CRT is that it identifies the problem with humanity as something other than sin.

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    Ph, I don’t quite connect those dots, quite the opposite. I took him to mean that Marx is just a person, and we don’t need to conflate him with Stalin or relitigate the Cold War in our own symbolic arguments in contemporary America. It doesn’t seem a stretch to tie together some of the most common theoretical frameworks when foregrounding issues of society, class and race.

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    Banning Critical Race Theory

    Quote Originally Posted by WFFaithful View Post
    Paraphrasing a Baptist pastor:

    The danger with CRT is that it identifies the problem with humanity as something other than sin.
    So this Baptist minister doesn’t think racism is a sin and that racism as a sin isn’t structural within a “secular world.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by JuiceCrewAllStar View Post
    a marxist take that is strongly against CRT: https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/201.../reed-d20.html
    That was awful.

    The “it’s not race, it’s class” stuff coming from the left is nauseating. Reed seemed delighted in his willful ignorance of current scholarship including basic terms like intersectionality.

    His line about why is it the legacy of slavery, not the legacy of sharecropping ignored time itself.

    I hope nobody is trying to recruit Black people into DSA with that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhDeac View Post

    I hope nobody is trying to recruit Black people into DSA with that.
    I don’t know if it’s intentional or not but you keep conflating “the left” with DSA. For the record, Reed was supposed to have a debate at a DSA event in 2020, and after pressure from membership and from the afro-socialist caucus, the event was canceled.

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    Banning Critical Race Theory

    The left isn’t exclusively DSA but you would consider DSA to the left, right?

    I’ve heard the “isn’t not race it’s class” from other sources but it was definitely part of the early Sanders 2016 campaign.

    Your POI makes my point. Good that didn’t fly with Black members.
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    “It’s race”

    “It’s class”

    Yes, and more.

    “It’s” complicated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PhDeac View Post
    So this Baptist minister doesn’t think racism is a sin and that racism as a sin isn’t structural within a “secular world.”
    That's how I took it. There was a line later about the reconciliation of all ethnicities.

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    The Atlantic published this a few months ago and I found it pretty fascinating:

    Editor’s Note: The Atlantic published “I Tried to Be a Communist” in two parts, in the August and September 1944 issues. In the essay, the author Richard Wright, who had published the novel Native Son in 1940, recounted what first drew him to the Communist Party in the 1930s, and what ultimately drove him away from it.
    I Tried to Be a Communist
    “I asked for a definition of what was expected from the writers—books or political activity. Both, was the answer.”

    By Richard Wright

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    What did we ever decide about Mr. Potato Head ? Can we circle back on that one ?

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    What did we ever decide about Mr. Potato Head ? Can we circle back on that one ?
    that's CGT
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    Unfortunately, Pyle's predictions about the demise of CRT seem to have been wrong--so far, at least--but his criticisms of it are as valid today as they were in 1999:

    https://lawdigitalcommons.bc.edu/cgi...4&context=bclr

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    Quote Originally Posted by WFFaithful View Post
    That's how I took it. There was a line later about the reconciliation of all ethnicities.
    Lol. Same guy today posted about wanting a replica Jefferson Davis statue on the Jefferson Davis Home and Presidential Library page

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