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Atlantic Division race, updated 11/7

Great to see that Garnes and Johns didn't suffer season ending injuries. We need both for our championship run.

I imagine they'll miss the next 2 weeks and then come back for final stretch. Nasir back on depth chart is a sigh of relief. Betting Clawson holds him out this week and tries to work him back in next week.

All in all, we escaped Army without too many injuries. Could've been much worse.
 
3-2 finish bare minimum
4-1 is very good
5-0 LOWF may have to be rescinded
 
CreamyGoodness said:
Great to see that Garnes and Johns didn't suffer season ending injuries. We need both for our championship run.

I imagine they'll miss the next 2 weeks and then come back for final stretch. Nasir back on depth chart is a sigh of relief. Betting Clawson holds him out this week and tries to work him back in next week.

All in all, we escaped Army without too many injuries. Could've been much worse.
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CreamyGoodness said:
Great to see that Garnes and Johns didn't suffer season ending injuries. We need both for our championship run.

I imagine they'll miss the next 2 weeks and then come back for final stretch. Nasir back on depth chart is a sigh of relief. Betting Clawson holds him out this week and tries to work him back in next week.

All in all, we escaped Army without too many injuries. Could've been much worse.
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5 defensive players from the published pre-Army 2 deep (plus Greer) were ultimately unavailable vs Army.
 
Can mods just close this LOWF thread? We won the division lol.
 
thatguy2016 said:
5 defensive players from the published pre-Army 2 deep (plus Greer) were ultimately unavailable vs Army.
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That’s over and done. 56 points? Whatever. Just looks more impressive when we beat Duke 80-0 because Clawson doesn’t want Sciba to get rusty.
 
Agree that the Army game is over and done. The purpose of my post was to point out that the utility of the published 2-deep is overrated
 
with yesterday's games in the books, the path to the Atlantic division title is clear. <edited, see below>
 
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thatguy2016 said:
with yesterday's games in the books, the path to the Atlantic division title is clear. All of these scenarios assume NC State and Clemson win every game except as noted:

As of today, with no help, WF must beat NC State and then win one of (@Clemson, @BC)

Regarding next week's games and the potential help they would give WF:

1. If NC State wins, Clemson loses: no real help to WF; WF must beat NC State and one of (@Clemson, @BC)

2. If NC State loses, Clemson wins: slight help; WF would win the Atlantic by winning any two of its last 3 games

3. If NC State and Clemson both lose: huge help; WF could clinch the Atlantic by beating NC State or by winning both of its last two (@Clemson, @BC)

Of course, if NC State wins, WF will at least have a ranked opponent on the schedule for 11/13 (and WF *should* beat NC State on 11/13)
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Thanks!
 
thatguy2016 said:
with yesterday's games in the books, the path to the Atlantic division title is clear. All of these scenarios assume NC State and Clemson win every game except as noted:

As of today, with no help, WF must beat NC State and then win one of (@Clemson, @BC)

Regarding next week's games and the potential help they would give WF:

1. If NC State wins, Clemson loses: no real help to WF; WF must beat NC State and one of (@Clemson, @BC)

2. If NC State loses, Clemson wins: slight help; WF would win the Atlantic by winning any two of its last 3 games

3. If NC State and Clemson both lose: huge help; WF could clinch the Atlantic by beating NC State or by winning both of its last two (@Clemson, @BC)

Of course, if NC State wins, WF will at least have a ranked opponent on the schedule for 11/13 (and WF *should* beat NC State on 11/13)
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If State wins and we beat them would that not clinch the division even if we lose to Clemson and BC?
 
jamesda3 said:
If State wins and we beat them would that not clinch the division even if we lose to Clemson and BC?
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ha - you are right, if Clemson loses (#1 above). If Clemson wins, there is the potential for a 3-way tie which would not fall in WF's favor.

Corrected here:

As of today, with no help, WF must beat NC State and then win one of (@Clemson, @BC)

Regarding next week's games and the potential help they would give WF:

1. If NC State wins, Clemson loses: big help to WF; WF would clinch the Atlantic by beating NC State

2. If NC State loses, Clemson wins: slight help; WF would win the Atlantic by winning any two of its last 3 games

3. If NC State and Clemson both lose: huge help; WF would clinch the Atlantic by beating NC State or by winning both of its last two (@Clemson, @BC)

Of course, if NC State wins, WF will at least have a ranked opponent on the schedule for 11/13 (and WF *should* beat NC State on 11/13)

Bottom line: If Clemson loses to UL, then no matter what happens elsewhere, WF can clinch the Atlantic by beating NC State on 11/13
 
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Was just looking at the Coastal Division. What a mess:

Pitt 3-1 (@ Duke, UNC, UVA, @ Cuse)
UVA 4-2 (Bye, ND, @Pitt, VT)
UNC 3-3 (WF, @ Pitt, Wofford, @ NC State)
VT 2-2 (@BC, Duke, @ Miami, @ UVA)
Miami 2-2 (GT, @FSU, VT, @Duke)
GT 2-4 (@Miami, BC, @ND, UGA)
Duke 0-4 (Pitt, @VT, L'ville, Miami)

Pitt holds the tiebreaker over VT
Miami holds the tiebreaks over Pitt
UVA holds the tiebreaker over Miami
UNC holds the tiebreaker over UVA and Miami

Pitt is still the favorite, but if UVA wins at Pitt, the division is open to 4 or 5 teams. FWIW, given Pitt's history of unexpected painful losses, wouldn't be surprised to see Cuse knock off Pitt at the end of the year to keep Pitt out of the ACCCG. Miami is suddenly dangerous and may be favored in each of the final 4.
 
I think a 5-way tie is possible, which would be awesome, or awful

Pitt beats Duke and UVA, loses to UNC and Cuse
UVA loses to Pitt, beats VT
UNC beats Pitt and NCSU
VT beats BC, Duke, Miami, loses to UVA
Miami loses to VT, beats GT, FSU, Duke
 
thatguy2016 said:
I think a 5-way tie is possible, which would be awesome, or awful

Pitt beats Duke and UVA, loses to UNC and Cuse
UVA loses to Pitt, beats VT
UNC beats Pitt and NCSU
VT beats BC, Duke, Miami, loses to UVA
Miami loses to VT, beats GT, FSU, Duke
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We should root for more discord in Coastal as greater chance the winner will be banged up if games are more competitive.
 
Maybe, alternatively it'd be nice to have a win over a 10-win Pitt team for the ol' resume
 
wsc8521s said:
Maybe, alternatively it'd be nice to have a win over a 10-win Pitt team for the ol' resume
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Only way resume comes into play if we’re trying to get an at-large NY6- which given our fanbase size and history- is extremely unlikely unless we lost to a team in ACC CG that was making playoff - that ain’t gonna be Pitt even if they win out from here.
 
JKW385 said:
Only way resume comes into play if we’re trying to get an at-large NY6- which given our fanbase size and history- is extremely unlikely unless we lost to a team in ACC CG that was making playoff - that ain’t gonna be Pitt even if they win out from here.
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If Wake goes 13-0 our resume will absolutely come into play if UC is also 13-0 and OU is 13-0, and UGA, Alabama, t-OSU, and Oregon are all 12-1.
 
BiffTannen said:
If Wake goes 13-0 our resume will absolutely come into play if UC is also 13-0 and OU is 13-0, and UGA, Alabama, t-OSU, and Oregon are all 12-1.
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That’s fair but I think we jump UC regardless and get in- we would be a Power 5 team that won our conference.
 
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