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Thread: Official 2021-22 NBA Offseason Thread - Bill Russell dead at 88

  1. #4921
    Quote Originally Posted by MrBojangles View Post
    If Rod Boone is correct, then the Hornets made a terrible trade. That reeks of trying to clear cap space, so that they can take on a big contract. Westbrook maybe? Deandre Ayton?

    Otherwise, the Hornets got fleeced by the Pistons... not sure it gets much worse than that. Denver's 1st round pick is going to be lower than the one you just made. Bad deal.

    ----- just announced, trade with the Knicks

    Oh my God ... even worse! They lost a trade with the Knicks. At least, the Knicks pick will be worse than Denver's.
    the knicks traded us denver's 2023 first and 4 2nd round picks for number 13

    the knicks then immediately traded #13 and kemba to detroit for milwaukee's 2025 first

    the knicks made the same trade as the hornets basically right after but instead of 4 2nd round picks they got kemba off their books

  2. #4922
    what in the absolute fuck was that hornets trade

    that is actually somehow worse than trading Kobe

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    Wow. That is extremely bad. Josh Howard's 38.0 WS makes up 23% of Mavs draft picks WS since 2000. Second in WS is Kelly Olynyk. Trae Young and Jalen Brunson will help those numbers but that's it.
    https://www.basketball-reference.com...DAL/draft.html

  4. #4924
    Kupchak presser: https://www.nba.com/hornets/videos/m...upchak-6-23-22. Confirmed they decided only to use one of the picks, influenced by having three draft picks last year.

    Also says they were convinced one of the bigs would fall to them, so I don't know why they couldn't come up with a better return for #13

  5. #4925
    Quote Originally Posted by wsc8521s View Post
    Kupchak presser: https://www.nba.com/hornets/videos/m...upchak-6-23-22. Confirmed they decided only to use one of the picks, influenced by having three draft picks last year.

    Also says they were convinced one of the bigs would fall to them, so I don't know why they couldn't come up with a better return for #13
    so we traded the best player out of the 5 picks we made for dog shit in return?

    i really, really don't get this trade

  6. #4926
    Essentially turned drafting Devonte Graham in the second round into the #13 pick, which is great work. But now essentially are back in the position where we have five dice rolls to see if we can even come up with somebody of Graham's caliber, when the second-round (or late first-round) hit rate is pretty low. All wasted

  7. #4927
    ugh - maybe the worst trade i can remember in a looooooooooooooooong time

  8. #4928
    ill say if not having a rookie lottery salary on the roster means we will now match the max offer someone is going to give miles then i can be okay with it

  9. #4929
    Quote Originally Posted by Fuck Your Couch View Post
    ill say if not having a rookie lottery salary on the roster means we will now match the max offer someone is going to give miles then i can be okay with it
    it is going to really be a buttfuck when it's detroit's max that we have to match

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    I don't know why the Spurs took Kennedy Chandler when Tre Jones looked good at the end of the season. The front office seems to key in on certain types of players and keep drafting them over and over again. Seems like they just drafted Vassell, Walker, and Jones over again.

    LOL. Traded to Memphis. Memphis was one player away and they'd acquired like 20 dudes tonight.
    Last edited by PhDeac; 06-23-2022 at 11:36 PM.

  11. #4931
    spurs in that really tough no man's land of the nba.... borderline playoff team with no superstar

  12. #4932
    What doesn't make sense to me is that every trade made by all of the teams behind the Hornets got a better return for the trade than the Hornets did (with a worse draft pick than Hornets had used). Clearly ineptitude in the Hornets front office. Not sure if this comes from the top (MJ) or if Kupchack is really that bad at his job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buckets View Post
    spurs in that really tough no man's land of the nba.... borderline playoff team with no superstar
    Yeah. It's the worst place to be. Seems like they're trying to draft guards with upside because it's a guards league, but they need to complete a rotation.

  14. #4934
    Quote Originally Posted by MrBojangles View Post
    What doesn't make sense to me is that every trade made by all of the teams behind the Hornets got a better return for the trade than the Hornets did (with a worse draft pick than Hornets had used). Clearly ineptitude in the Hornets front office. Not sure if this comes from the top (MJ) or if Kupchack is really that bad at his job.
    yuuuuuuuuup

    wolves got more for jake at 19 (much higher than projected) than the hornets got for duren at 13 (much lower than projected)

  15. #4935
    Pretty garbage second round picks too, Utah, NYK and either Dallas or Miami. Not like we're looking at a bunch of picks in the 30s

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    Feels like the Knicks are doing everything wrong when they're moving heaven and earth to get Jalen Brunson.

    He's a good player, but he shouldn't be THE FA target of the offseason.

  17. #4937
    Memphis still trading for picks lol

  18. #4938
    Quote Originally Posted by PhDeac View Post
    Feels like the Knicks are doing everything wrong when they're moving heaven and earth to get Jalen Brunson.

    He's a good player, but he shouldn't be THE FA target of the offseason.
    Not to mention everyone else thinks he is staying in Dallas. It would very Knicks whether they get him or not at this point

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    The Hornets, Knicks, and Grizz have made some confusing moves. The Grizz have a lot of flexibility this offseason and can get away with pretty much anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeacdeTejas View Post
    Not to mention everyone else thinks he is staying in Dallas. It would very Knicks whether they get him or not at this point
    I guess. Going to a team without a legit PG would be a good move for Brunson. There aren't that many spots left. But the Knicks just aren't an attractive roster or franchise.

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