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Deacs ranked 13th in Coaches Poll

Cincinnati is getting sort of a 2-year earned ranking and they're riding high on that Notre Dame win. Wake hasn't "earned" it yet in probably a lot of pundits' minds.

Agreed. It will be interesting to see how this year effects the preseason ranking going into next year. If we finish with 10 wins, bring back almost the whole offense and most of the defense, and are predicted to finish in the bottom half of the division again, I won't even know what to say.
 
Yeah. And that's certainly possible. The major talking heads on ESPN and such definitely aren't taking us seriously.
 
If you aren’t a traditional power or a big market team- sadly it’s a 2 or 3-year circle to get national attention. Look at how long it took Baylor and TCU.
 
Yeah. If you don't bide your time, the powers that be resent you because they know nothing about you.
 
We were ranked 6th by Street & Smith. I still have the magazine. The back cover was an RJ Reynolds ad. :)
Always kind of wonder what they were thinking ranking us that high in 71. We won the ACC but the ACC back then was really a minor league conference and we got pimp slapped in every non conference game we played that season
 
Yeah. If you don't bide your time, the powers that be resent you because they know nothing about you.

Bingo. That's the biggest hill for WF to climb. The "experts" are exposed if WF is really good because: a) they didn't predict it; b) they know nothing about WF; so, their lack of knowledge will be revealed if forced to go into detail about WF's personnel.

It's easy to be an expert when the same 4 teams are in the conversation all year (particularly if you kid plays for one of those four schools). Not so easy when there are party crashers and a team that the experts have never spent a second on is a factor.
 
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Sports media may be the laziest form of media and within that, college football media is the laziest of the lazy. They don't want to actually have to learn about 130 football teams. They want to focus on the SEC and maybe 10-15 other programs with a few rotating in and out of relevance.
 
I've tried listening to Mark Packer's show on ESPNU radio this week, and other than getting on the occasional guest to talk about the Big 10 or LSU coaching search or something, he takes calls from fans of basically Georgia, OU, LSU, Penn State and a few other programs. Boring.
 
Bingo. That's the biggest hill for WF to climb. The "experts" are exposed if WF is really good because: a) they didn't predict it; b) they know nothing about WF; so, their lack of knowledge will be revealed if forced to go into detail about WF's personnel.

It's easy to be an expert when the same 4 teams are in the conversation all year (particularly if you kid plays for one of those four schools). Not so easy when there are party crashers and a team that the experts have never spent a second on is a factor.

Among those same lines I absolutely HATE when sports media, especially those who don't really focus on college football, declare that "college football really needs (USC/Texas/Nebraska/Notre Dame/etc.) to be great again."
 
Yes. And when they don’t just let go of programs that have fallen off like USC.
 
USC can get back quickly with the right coach
 
USC can get back quickly with the right coach

That's the case for most programs. There's no reason except for legacy USC is perceived to have a better program than UCLA.
 
I think USC does have some significant facility limitations athletically because they just don’t have the real estate.
 
I've tried listening to Mark Packer's show on ESPNU radio this week, and other than getting on the occasional guest to talk about the Big 10 or LSU coaching search or something, he takes calls from fans of basically Georgia, OU, LSU, Penn State and a few other programs. Boring.

Maybe that’s because he spends three hours every day talking about the ACC.
 
Bingo. That's the biggest hill for WF to climb. The "experts" are exposed if WF is really good because: a) they didn't predict it; b) they know nothing about WF; so, their lack of knowledge will be revealed if forced to go into detail about WF's personnel.

It's easy to be an expert when the same 4 teams are in the conversation all year (particularly if you kid plays for one of those four schools). Not so easy when there are party crashers and a team that the experts have never spent a second on is a factor.

J-Williams knows a lot about us and when J-Will and Keyshawn asked Kirk Herbstreit about the ACC about 2 weeks ago, Herbstreit said...Wake Forest.

And then J-Will in true Duke Basketball fashion, essentially, acted bored and acted as if we could not and should not be relevant.
 
Maybe that’s because he spends three hours every day talking about the ACC.

Sure but his whole afternoon show is yokels calling in being like "Wooo, Pack, how much you think the Dawgs gonna whip the Gators this weekend?"
 
Always kind of wonder what they were thinking ranking us that high in 71. We won the ACC but the ACC back then was really a minor league conference and we got pimp slapped in every non conference game we played that season

The 1970 Deacs won the ACC. In 1971, almost all the key players were returning. They should have been another year older and better. I think both lines had to replace guys and that didn't work out well. Also, the Veer became less diverse as the pass part of it went away mostly.

Non-zero probability the writers at S & S were partaking of hand rolled.
 
Sure but his whole afternoon show is yokels calling in being like "Wooo, Pack, how much you think the Dawgs gonna whip the Gators this weekend?"

Isn’t that what Paul Finebaum is for
 
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