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Thread: #16 NCSU at #12 Wake, 11/13 - 7:30p ACCN

  1. #1761
    Quote Originally Posted by Ball State Deac View Post
    That Sciba miss… ugg. Hated it for him. He’s a GREAT college kicker but Swank had a bigger leg and never made an NFL roster. Tough position.
    Yeah, NFL want a guy that have mid-50's leg strength, but also a guy that can kickoff into the endzone as well. Shame, the kid is money and the 52 yarder was right down the pipe too.
    boorish ruffian

  2. #1762
    Quote Originally Posted by liveanddiedeac View Post
    Yeah, NFL want a guy that have mid-50's leg strength, but also a guy that can kickoff into the endzone as well. Shame, the kid is money and the 52 yarder was right down the pipe too.
    I'd take him on the Saints today.

  3. #1763
    Quote Originally Posted by bym051d View Post
    I'd take him on the Saints today.
    I think some NFL teams could live with his range limits if they had a punter that was also the kickoff guy.
    boorish ruffian

  4. #1764
    Quote Originally Posted by liveanddiedeac View Post
    Yeah, NFL want a guy that have mid-50's leg strength, but also a guy that can kickoff into the endzone as well. Shame, the kid is money and the 52 yarder was right down the pipe too.
    Are we even sure he hit that ball in the center? Looked like he hit it fat like I tend to do with a pitching wedge hah.

  5. #1765
    Quote Originally Posted by cheeseheads12 View Post
    Are we even sure he hit that ball in the center? Looked like he hit it fat like I tend to do with a pitching wedge hah.
    I mean he may have not gotten all of it, I've always gotten impression though that his range pretty much maxes out in the low 50's. And yeah, I can relate to the fat, chunky, heavy, etc. wedge.
    boorish ruffian

  6. #1766
    Rewatching the game in between work meetings this morning. Zion Keith really struggles - at everything. The late 2nd quarter TD to Carter was on him, and the TD return to start the 2nd half was right up his lane with him lying face first on the ground. Also, the jump pass would be wide open, if we ever run it out of the wildcat (though I don't like that formation). I think AT will come back huge against Clemson. Hartman wasn't necessarily on point, but he threw probably 5-6 more balls to AT, including a couple deep shots, that absolutely should have been caught.

  7. #1767
    Quote Originally Posted by tigerswood View Post
    Rewatching the game in between work meetings this morning. Zion Keith really struggles - at everything. The late 2nd quarter TD to Carter was on him, and the TD return to start the 2nd half was right up his lane with him lying face first on the ground. Also, the jump pass would be wide open, if we ever run it out of the wildcat (though I don't like that formation). I think AT will come back huge against Clemson. Hartman wasn't necessarily on point, but he threw probably 5-6 more balls to AT, including a couple deep shots, that absolutely should have been caught.
    Not to pile on the kid, but he gave up Emezie's 2nd TD and Carter's final TD as well. There just has to be a better option. He gave up 3 TDs in one game, and blew contain on at least one kickoff, leading to a TD.

  8. #1768
    Quote Originally Posted by tigerswood View Post
    Not to pile on the kid, but he gave up Emezie's 2nd TD and Carter's final TD as well. There just has to be a better option. He gave up 3 TDs in one game, and blew contain on at least one kickoff, leading to a TD.
    I mean he's a nickel who was playing CB for the first (?) time all year in the most important game of the year. Of course he got burnt multiple times. But he had some decent plays too, I believe he was the guy who prevented the first KO return from being a TD, and he had a few plays while on Emezie. I don't know how much you can expect from a guy playing out of position against a top 5 passing QB in the ACC and a really good receiver (Emezie).

    With Holmes and Carson out and Ja'Sir apparently a game time decision, it is what it is. Hopefully we get one of the young corners back this week at Clemson.

  9. #1769
    Wtf Taylor is hurt now too? How did I miss that?

  10. #1770
    Quote Originally Posted by WRS View Post
    Wtf Taylor is hurt now too? How did I miss that?
    Apparently he was a game time decision for NC State. He played like 85% of the snaps after sitting out the first series, so I'm sure he will play against Clemson, but he isn't 100% healthy

  11. #1771
    That’s addition by subtraction unless he plays at less than 100% then it’s a negative plus negative.

  12. #1772
    Roberts was an awesome surprise. I know “trust in Clawson” and all, but seems like some of the other young guys (or transfers) might warrant some PT over Keith. Not sure how much Dave manages defensive personnel decisions, and we can all agree that Hemphill has not earned the trust of the fanbase on his decisions (despite calling a pretty solid ~50 min of football vs. State).

  13. #1773
    Quote Originally Posted by deacon14 View Post
    Apparently he was a game time decision for NC State. He played like 85% of the snaps after sitting out the first series, so I'm sure he will play against Clemson, but he isn't 100% healthy
    Okay that makes sense. Starting to feel like we really need this game honestly. Injuries are starting to pile up and we definitely don’t want the pressure of an all-or-nothing game against BC.

  14. #1774
    Quote Originally Posted by tigerswood View Post
    Roberts was an awesome surprise. I know “trust in Clawson” and all, but seems like some of the other young guys (or transfers) might warrant some PT over Keith. Not sure how much Dave manages defensive personnel decisions, and we can all agree that Hemphill has not earned the trust of the fanbase on his decisions (despite calling a pretty solid ~50 min of football vs. State).
    Is Wingfield also hurt? I feel like I saw somewhere that all 4 of the 2 deep at CB had injuries of some kind (Taylor, Carson, Holmes, Wingfield)

    If that's the case, I don't know who you are advocating should have been out there instead of Keith. A true freshman who hasn't played all year? A safety? If we weren't also injured at safety (Davis out for the year, Greer) maybe moving someone over to corner would be an option, but that doesn't seem realistic at this point.

  15. #1775
    Quote Originally Posted by WRS View Post
    Okay that makes sense. Starting to feel like we really need this game honestly. Injuries are starting to pile up and we definitely don’t want the pressure of an all-or-nothing game against BC.
    I am loving this.. I would like to have worries at this level every year. I think the Deacs are up to it and a 2-0 finish would not surprise me.

  16. #1776
    Quote Originally Posted by tigerswood View Post
    Roberts was an awesome surprise. I know “trust in Clawson” and all, but seems like some of the other young guys (or transfers) might warrant some PT over Keith. Not sure how much Dave manages defensive personnel decisions, and we can all agree that Hemphill has not earned the trust of the fanbase on his decisions (despite calling a pretty solid ~50 min of football vs. State).
    something that may be pertinent is that we're now in the window where a guy could play all remaining games and not burn a redshirt

    no idea if that might apply to anybody yet to see the field

  17. #1777
    Quote Originally Posted by JuiceCrewAllStar View Post
    something that may be pertinent is that we're now in the window where a guy could play all remaining games and not burn a redshirt
    I'm seeing 5 games left on the schedule:

    Clemson
    BC
    ACC Championship game
    CFP semifinal
    CFP final

  18. #1778
    Quote Originally Posted by JuiceCrewAllStar View Post
    something that may be pertinent is that we're now in the window where a guy could play all remaining games and not burn a redshirt

    no idea if that might apply to anybody yet to see the field
    Your math is off. 2 more regular season + 1 ACC champ + 2 CFP playoffs = 5 games.

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    Clawson did say in the coaches show that he'd start playing some more true freshmen now.

  20. #1780
    The way last night played out, we got to beat NCState twice in one season. Suck it, Pack!

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