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MBB Game 6: Oregon State Beavers: Friday 9:30 pm - CBS Sports Network DirecTV Ch. 221

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Before the Beaver eval, a quick update on WF's progress this season. When this season started WF was rated #105 in KP ratings (WF finished last season at #175). WF has climbed 14 spots to #91. KP now projects WF to finish the regular season at 16-14 (WF plays 31 regular season games, but he doesn't project the game this Saturday, because the opponent is not known yet) and 8-12 in the ACC (tied with Miami for 12th). Another CBB rating site barttorvik.com , rates WF #69 and to finish 18-12 (9-11). IOW, put a bullet by the Deacs as they ascend the rankings.

OK, now lets explore the Beavers:

Coach: 52 year-old Wayne Tinkle leads the Beavs. He and his family are basketball lifers (see picture below). Tinkle was a star player at U of Montana (6th all-time in points; 4th in boards). Tinkle's wife was also a star basketball player at Montana (University of Montana athletic hall of famer). Tinkle has 3 kids. His daughter Joslyn played in three NCAA final 4s for Stanford. His other daughter Elle was a four year player at Gonzaga and led the Zags to a Sweet 16. Tinkle's son Tres was a 4 year player at Oregon State and is the Beavers all-time leading scorer. Prior to taking the Oregon State job, Tinkle coached his alma mater, Montana for 8 years, winning 3 Big Sky Conference titles and taking the Grizzlies to 3 NCAA tournaments. Tinkle's greatest achievement was taking the Beavers on an epic run to the Elite 8 last season. On February 14, 2021, the Beavers sat at 10-10 (6-8) #123, and it was certain that a mediocre Beaver Basketball season would end at the Pac 12 tournament. The light suddenly and unexpectedly turned on for the Beavers as they won their last 3 road Pac 12 road games heading into the Pac 12 tournament, but the fun was just starting. Oregon State needed to win the Pac 12 tourney to get an NCAA bid and that's what they did. They opened the Pac 12 tournament against UCLA (who ended up going to the Final 4) and took down the Bruins in OT. The Beavers then beat #16 Oregon in the semifinals and #8 Colorado (including Dallas Walton) in the conference finals to steal an NCAA bid. The Beavs crazy run continued as they took down Tennessee by 14, Oklahoma State and Cade Cunningham by 10 and Loyola-Chicago by 7 to advance to the NCAA South Regional final. The Beaves season finally ended in a tight contest to Houston (67-61) for a Final Four bid. From February 14 until March 29, Oregon State beat 9 teams rated #57 or above and four teams rated in the top 16. The Beavers finished the season rated #43.

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The 2021-22 Beavers. OSU lost 4 players, including leading scorer Ethan Thompson, from last year's squad, and they have stumbled to start this season as injuries and suspensions have further hampered Oregon State. After an opening win over #255 Portland State, Oregon State has lost 4 straight as a favorite: by 10 to #111 Iowa State, by 6 to #143 Tulsa, by 1 to #234 Samford and by 1 to #138 Princeton. Offensively, OSU misses Thompson and fellow starter Zach Reichle as their offense has regressed from #36 to #83. OSU has struggled to hit shots (31.9% from 3 -- #204 and 60.5% from the line #333). The Beavers have had little success in rebounding their misses (#223 in offensive rebounding rate). Defense has been worse than the offense as the Beavers have sagged to #125 on defense. OSU is below average in almost every defensive metric (3 point % defense, 2 point % defense, opponents' offensive rebounding percentage). In addition, OSU has been unlucky -- losing two games by a point, and their opponents have shot unusually well from the FT line (77% #321 against them). In addition, OSU starters have missed games for the Beavers as 6-10 C Maurice Calloo missed their most recent game with a knee injury as did Calloo's back up 7-1 Roman Silva, starter Dashawn Davis missed the Tulsa game and Maryland transfer Chol Marial was declared academically ineligible to start the season.

OSU Starters:

Last time out, the Beavers started:

PG 6-2 Jr. Dashawn Davis: Led the Beavers in scoring in his first start against Princeton 16 points; JUCO all-american; tie for the team lead in assists 19/5 A/TO ratio; 1 for 6 from three on the year
SG 6-4 Jr. Jarod Lucas: two year starter, has been great from deep (38% for his career; 41% this year) 11 ppg; 90% from the line
SF 6-5 Jr. Dexter Akanno: Marquette transfer; not a scorer (3 ppg) 2 for 10 from three; last game was his first and only start
PF 6-8 Sr. Warith Alatishe: leading scorer 13 ppg and rebounder 7 ppg; Nichols State transfer; honorable mention all Pac-12, started to hit the three
C 6-8 Sr. Rodrigue Andela: only started because Calloo and Silva were out; not a scoring threat 3.2 ppg;

Bench:

C 6-10 Sr. Maurice Calloo: Missed last game with a knee injury; 2nd leading scorer and rebounder; played very well in the NCAA tournament last year (15 points against OK State; 13 against Houston); scored 20 against Tulsa, big loss if he is absent
PG 6-4 Jr. Gianni Hunt: started first 4 games; struggled to score (14% from 3; 33% from 2); tied for the team lead in assists; better player than he has showed so far; shot 37% from 3 in 2020-21
F 6-8 Jr. Ahmad Rand: Memphis transfer; averaged 11 ppg in the last two; no threat from deep; known for his defense
G/F 6-5 Jr. Tre Williams: Minnesota transfer -- 13 starts for the Gophers; 11 points last time out; can score points in bunches; 29% lifetime 3 point %
G/F 6-6 Fr. Glenn Taylor: only frosh on the OSU roster to play; 9 points against Princeton; reputation as 3 point shooter

The Bottom Line: KP projects 71-70 WF win. Early season results have changed the outlook for both teams. Heading into the season, Oregon State was a projected 4 point winner over the Deacs. Tinkle is still experimenting with his team as 8 players have started at least one of the first 5 games. Currently, the Beavers struggle to shoot, rebound and play defense (hard to win that way), but there are some solid pieces on this roster and Tinkle is a savvy coach. Also, Oregon State's shooting regression has to head in the other direction at some point. When this team is healthy and gets used to playing together, they could do some damage. FWIW, Oregon State hasn't played since last Sunday; so, they will have 4 days to prepare for WF, and would expect Oregon State's best effort of the season. A key will be Calloo's status. If he is out, the Deacs should have their way with the Beavers inside. If Calloo plays and OSU gets shots to finally fall, the game could be tight. That said, WF is healthy and has a better roster. Plus, the game will be played at Forbes' home turf. Clear that this tournament means a lot to him. If WF is favored by 2.5 or less, really like the WF side in this game. If Calloo is out, LOVE the WF side in this game.
 
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Sounds like this game could go very different directions depending on the health of Calloo and Silva. If both are healthy, could be difficult for Wake to score inside. If both are out or limited, Wake bigs and drivers could feast inside.
 
Reading the Oregon State 24/7 board... They are a lot less enamored with Tinkle than Pilchard appears to be.

This is Tinkle's 8th season and it feels like, while they enjoyed the run last year, the contract extension Tinkle signed was depressing to the fanbase. They think he's an average coach, at best.

Criticism of play so far this year is mainly the lack of focus on defense... They play hard for 15-20 seconds and then have a lapse. Too many wide open 3 point shooters. Hopefully we can take advantage of that.

Fanbase seems to like Davis and Rand (newcomers)... Andela (backup C who will play if Calloo is out) is terrible.

We should win this game handily. If Wake plays aggressive defense, I doubt Oregon State's shots will just start falling.
 
Reading the Oregon State 24/7 board... They are a lot less enamored with Tinkle than Pilchard appears to be.

This is Tinkle's 8th season and it feels like, while they enjoyed the run last year, the contract extension Tinkle signed was depressing to the fanbase. They think he's an average coach, at best.

Criticism of play so far this year is mainly the lack of focus on defense... They play hard for 15-20 seconds and then have a lapse. Too many wide open 3 point shooters. Hopefully we can take advantage of that.

Fanbase seems to like Davis and Rand (newcomers)... Andela (backup C who will play if Calloo is out) is terrible.

We should win this game handily. If Wake plays aggressive defense, I doubt Oregon State's shots will just start falling.


Oregon State fans are delusional if they are unhappy with Tinkle. Can't believe that the consensus take. Consider:

Here are the four coaches before Wayne Tinkle took the job:

WF's own Eddie Payne: 5 seasons at OSU 52-88 (.371) Pac 10 record: 22-68 (.244) 0 NCAA appearances never finished higher than 7th in the 10 team conference

Ritchie McKay (who has proven to be a solid coach): 2 season at OSU 22-37 (.373) Pac-10 record 8-28 (.222) 0 NCAA appearances; never finished higher than 9th in the 10 team conference

Jay John 72-97 (42.6%) 28-68 (29%). 0 NCAA appearances; finished 8th or worse in the Pac 10, in 4 of his 6 seasons

Craig Robinson (Obama's brother in law) 93-104 39-69 (36.2%) 0 NCAA appearances; 8th worse in the Pac-12 in 4 of his 6 seasons

Then Wayne Tinkle gets the job to start the 2014-2015. In his seven seasons as Oregon State's coach, they have had a losing record ONCE. Prior to hiring Tinkle, Oregon State had a winning record ONCE in 20 seasons. The Beavers have qualified for the NCAAs twice in Tinkle's seven seasons after after not making the tournament in the previous 34 years before hiring Tinkle. Oregon State was ranked in the final 2021 poll for the first time in 31 years. Tinkle's team won three games in the NCAA Tournament, tying the 1963 Final Four team for the most tournament wins in program history. Defeated five Top 25 teams, the most in a season since the 1975-76 team also won five against ranked opponents. Beat a Top 25 team on the road for the first time since 1985 (at No. 21 Oregon). Defeated four Top 25 teams at a neutral site; the last time Oregon State beat a ranked opponent at a neutral site came in 1992 (vs. No. 25 BYU in Portland). Won three-straight conference road games for the first time since 2003. Swept California for the first time since 2009. Swept Utah for the first time since 2012. Won 10 Pac-12 games for the second time in three years. Prior to that, Oregon State had not won 10 conference games in more than 30 years.
 
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The last time they made the NCAA Tournament, they followed it up with a 5-27 (1-17) campaign.

It’s a shitty program, for sure.
 
The Beavers did win the Pac 12 and advance to Elite 8 last year. You would think that would buy some goodwill for the fans of a program that hasn't been relevant since the 1980s. WF hasn't made an Elite 8 since 1984.
 
The Beavers did win the Pac 12 and advance to Elite 8 last year. You would think that would buy some goodwill for the fans of a program that hasn't been relevant since the 1980s. WF hasn't made an Elite 8 since 1984.

Wrong
 
My Mistake. WF has made one Elite 8 since 1984.
 
Agree that you'd think Tinkle earned some goodwill from last year, and he did get a nice contract extension, but they were pretty mediocre most of last year. A ~3 week run in March is fun (or at least I imagine it would be), but it was really out of nowhere.

And now they suck again.
 
Manning got the Wake job in large part due to a 3-week run at Tulsa. So beware of small sample sizes and all that.

Oregon State had half of the worst Major conference seasons pre-[Redacted] though, so Oregon State could just be a really hard place to win. AND Tinkle could be an averageish type coach for a major. Those thoughts don’t have to be mutually exclusive.
 
My Mistake. WF has made one Elite 8 since 1984.

And the coach that got WF there was (still is) very heavily criticized for not getting WF further. Honeymoon was over two years later with a decent percentage of the fan base.
 
WF ranks on key stats among the 358 D1 MBB teams:

Offense:

Effective FG%: #4
FTA per FGA: #80
3 PT%: #28
2 PT FG%: #4

Defense:

Effective FG%: #89
TO %: #29
3 PT FG%: #188
2 PT FG%: #55
Block%: #73
Steal%: #15

Schedule strength: #354
Height: #55

Schedule has been super-easy, but the team has shot exceptionally well, played strong pressure defense and defended the paint. Good things to build on.
 
Forgot to add the day of the game. Had to look up to make sure not tonight.
 
Manning got the Wake job in large part due to a 3-week run at Tulsa. So beware of small sample sizes and all that.

Oregon State had half of the worst Major conference seasons pre-[Redacted] though, so Oregon State could just be a really hard place to win. AND Tinkle could be an averageish type coach for a major. Those thoughts don’t have to be mutually exclusive.
Paint touches got the job because Wellman is a jackass.
 
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