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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL68 View Post
    We're better than 2006.
    Not our defense

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    Same record. Similar ranking. Elite on one side of the ball (#12 scoring defense, #3 scoring offense). Weak on the other (#76 scoring offense, #91 scoring defense).

    Hard to claim one team is significantly better than the other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhDeac View Post
    Same record. Similar ranking. Elite on one side of the ball (#12 scoring defense, #3 scoring offense). Weak on the other (#76 scoring offense, #91 scoring defense).

    Hard to claim one team is significantly better than the other.
    I think this team could score on that team enough that freshman Riley and the O couldnít keep up.
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    I agree this team would win head to head because itís a favorable matchup for the 2021 defense. But overall, these are comparable teams. Of course, if this team wins twice and gets to 12-2 with a top 10 ranking, that would give them the edge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhDeac View Post
    I agree this team would win head to head because itís a favorable matchup for the 2021 defense. But overall, these are comparable teams. Of course, if this team wins twice and gets to 12-2 with a top 10 ranking, that would give them the edge.
    No, I agree they are comparable.
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  6. #106
    Quote Originally Posted by 1976Deac View Post
    Not our defense
    Special teams were better in 2006. We had a burner at KO returner with Marion and a shifty punt returner with Phonz. Phonz was also a threat to block a punt. Placekickers were both great and call them even. Cant remember who punted in 2006 so maybe slight edge to Mora on punting.

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    Swank kicked and punted.

  8. #108
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    Swank kicked and punted.
    Yeah, Plack graduated the prior year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WFU1977 View Post
    Special teams were better in 2006. We had a burner at KO returner with Marion and a shifty punt returner with Phonz. Phonz was also a threat to block a punt. Placekickers were both great and call them even. Cant remember who punted in 2006 so maybe slight edge to Mora on punting.
    Donít forget Willie the jet Idellete on Punt and KO returns as well. Donít think Phonz returned punts until later in his career

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    Quote Originally Posted by WFU1977 View Post
    Special teams were better in 2006. We had a burner at KO returner with Marion and a shifty punt returner with Phonz. Phonz was also a threat to block a punt. Placekickers were both great and call them even. Cant remember who punted in 2006 so maybe slight edge to Mora on punting.
    Morin is a great returner. The KO return game has changed with the fair catch to the 25 rule so we just donít get many returns like we did in Ď06.

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    I started a thread for discussion of past Wake ACC Champs.

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    Donít forget Willie the jet Idellete on Punt and KO returns as well. Donít think Phonz returned punts until later in his career
    Willie was great, you are right. Oddly enough, his crackback block in the 2006 championship is probably my favorite football memory.

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    Morin is a great returner. The KO return game has changed with the fair catch to the 25 rule so we just donít get many returns like we did in Ď06.
    Not sure that is the right take. Clawson likely tells our returners to fair catch since we dont have KO talent like Zonavan Knight or Kevin Marion. If we had an elite speedster, I suspect that our tactic would vary. I am not dissing Morin as he is solid but he is not a likely candidate to take it to the house on KO's.

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    I disagree. With an elite offense, it makes sense to just take the ball on the 25 unless there's something in the coverage to justify taking it out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhDeac View Post
    I agree this team would win head to head because itís a favorable matchup for the 2021 defense. But overall, these are comparable teams. Of course, if this team wins twice and gets to 12-2 with a top 10 ranking, that would give them the edge.
    Would actually be a pretty fun matchup. That LB corps against the slow mesh would be fascinating.

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    My gut (and talking to fellow alums, looking at Twitter, these boards etc ) is saying this will be a great gathering of Wake fans this weekend ó maybe similar to the positive surprise in turnout we had at the Orange Bowl. Certainly Charlotte should help. Anyone thinking differently or all bullish on turnout?

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    caesars has pitt -2.5, o/u 71.5
    Smash that over

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haros View Post
    My gut (and talking to fellow alums, looking at Twitter, these boards etc ) is saying this will be a great gathering of Wake fans this weekend ó maybe similar to the positive surprise in turnout we had at the Orange Bowl. Certainly Charlotte should help. Anyone thinking differently or all bullish on turnout?
    I feel it will be a great crowd. Have had alumni who live out of town and don't get to attend home asking me about how to get tickets. We had a good turnout for the game in 06 in Jacksonville and the Belk Bowl a few years ago. This is bigger than that Belk Bowl game; I think we get a good turnout.

  19. #119
    Quote Originally Posted by MBDeac08 View Post
    I feel it will be a great crowd. Have had alumni who live out of town and don't get to attend home asking me about how to get tickets. We had a good turnout for the game in 06 in Jacksonville and the Belk Bowl a few years ago. This is bigger than that Belk Bowl game; I think we get a good turnout.
    Will we have a home field advantage?

  20. #120

    2021 ACC Championship Thread: WAKE vs. PITT (Dec 4 - 8pm)

    Listening to Clawsonís press conference today and he surprisingly drops Pete Lemboís name. Apparently Lembo helped facilitate Clawson hiring Ruggiero back when he was at Bowling Green.

    https://youtu.be/vgYwtwUkZzs

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