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Official CFB Offseason Thread: Saban and Jimbo Trade "Despicable" Punches ! !!!!!!! !

buckets said:
i mean...... is saban trying to say that no bama player has an NIL deal?
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No. He's saying his players have to work (or "work") for their NIL deals.
 
buckets said:
i mean...... is saban trying to say that no bama player has an NIL deal?
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Bama QB Bryce Young has been touted as having NIL deals totally over seven figures including one from BMW of Tuscaloosa....

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I don't even see why this is a big deal. I took this as Saban lobbying boosters to do the same thing in order to keep pace.
 
The idea that all the big schools are not buying players via these NIL deals, regardless of how technically formulated, is laughable. I bet Saban is right about aTm. I also don't believe for a second that there aren't a lot of Alabama players who really didn't have to work all that hard for their deals. It isn't like the schools all don't know where their bread is buttered.
 
I may need to tune into this game on October 22.

Saban is treating it a little like wrestlin' in that he knows Jimbo is an emotional dude, and maybe will make an emotional decision or two in that game that could backfire - to go for it or whatever, instead of the right play (like a punt on 4th and 4 or similar).

Maybe that's Saban's angle - start throwing Jimbo off his game now.
 
Saban and Jimbo were getting the best players before NIL. They get so angry now they got to pay for the same players. SEC is a dumb jock sniffer led conference.
 
macktheknife said:
Saban and Jimbo were getting the best players before NIL. They get so angry now they got to pay for the same players. SEC is a dumb jock sniffer led conference.
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Jimbo was getting between zero and two 5-Star recruits per year at A&M before NIL. He got 8 this year.
 
Do incoming Bama recruits have NIL deals?

Saban seems to suggest only current players get deals and they all split the collective.
 
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i think bama has been paying their players the entire time. the price just went up with NIL.
 
yeah, not sure Saban is the best voice to be going all out against the Aggie NIL deals.
 
PhDeac said:
There's got to be more to Jimbo's response, right? This was the perfect opportunity for him to say, "Hell yeah my players get paid. Come to A&M and you'll get paid too." Go all in and call Saban a socialist for splitting the collective pie evenly.



It doesn't come off like that at all. Deion isn't talking about SEC schools. He's talking about his program. He's beating back accusations that the only reason a top player would get to Jackson State is if he's getting paid an obscene amount of money. It's an absurd accusation anyway. Big money has never been with HBCUs so claiming that Barstool Sports of all companies would so heavily invest in an HBCU is ridiculous. It was just bitter white recruiting gurus who know nothing about JSU or HBCU culture grasping for a reason a kid would disrupt their industry.
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When was the last time a top 100 football recruit went to an HBCU, let alone at top 1 recruit? Seems pretty naive to think there isn't a ton of money coming his way. However it's happening, it's cool what Deion is doing.
 
tigerswood said:
When was the last time a top 100 football recruit went to an HBCU, let alone at top 1 recruit? Seems pretty naive to think there isn't a ton of money coming his way. However it's happening, it's cool what Deion is doing.
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You're arguing that all of a sudden an HBCU program got big money and that money was more than big time programs were offering. It's a nonsense argument. It also disregards that JSU signed four 4-star HS recruits and one 4-star JUCO before NIL in 2021. The JSU 2021 pre-NIL class was higher ranked than the 2022 post-NIL class.
 
PhDeac said:
You're arguing that all of a sudden an HBCU program got big money and that money was more than big time programs were offering. It's a nonsense argument. It also disregards that JSU signed four 4-star HS recruits and one 4-star JUCO before NIL in 2021. The JSU 2021 pre-NIL class was higher ranked than the 2022 post-NIL class.
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So he flipped from arguably (?) the best program/coach of all time to Jackson State, put his NFL (and in your world, NIL) future at much higher risk, and you don't think he's benefitting from it in any way financially? Not only that, you think it's a "nonsense argument". Got it. We'll just agree to disagree.
 
I don't think it's that crazy that an elite CB chose Deion Sanders as his coach. I don't think it's crazy that Black kid is going to an HBCU.

I do think it's nonsense a bunch of OWGs are putting out unfounded rumors about a kid because he didn't choose their favorite football program.

 
My bad, thought I remembered he flipped from Bama. Bama was very heavily in the mix, and I believe the scuttlebutt was that he was flipping there. I still think he's getting paid plenty to go to Jackson State. For his sake, I hope he is. Very risky decision.
 
PhDeac said:
I don't think it's that crazy that an elite CB chose Deion Sanders as his coach. I don't think it's crazy that Black kid is going to an HBCU.

I do think it's nonsense a bunch of OWGs are putting out unfounded rumors about a kid because he didn't choose their favorite football program.

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The name Travis Hunter would probably not register with anyone other than the P5 he signed with had he not flipped to an HBCU; now most college football fans know who he is. So from a true and pure NIL standpoint, he greatly leveraged his name, image and likeness by going the HBCU route. So maybe he really wanted to play for Deion or felt the tug of being part of the HBCU experience, but from the $$ side of it, if managed properly, he can make major bank off of this as it's a compelling, sellable story. And there's nothing wrong with that, in fact, that's exactly what NIL was meant to accomplish, i.e. an above-board direct relationship between a player's marketable image and his NIL income . Good for him.
 
Yeah. Perhaps the silliest part of this story is that people are talking about all the money going to A&M for top prospects but also claiming JSU outbid all of them as if A&M and other SEC boosters stop at $1.5M.
 
PhDeac said:
Yeah. Perhaps the silliest part of this story is that people are talking about all the money going to A&M for top prospects but also claiming JSU outbid all of them as if A&M and other SEC boosters stop at $1.5M.
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People are talking because there was a well publicized and widely believed rumor spread by well connected sources that he got $1m through Dion's connections and that he would play there for a year and then get paid again when he goes somewhere else after a year. It may be true, it may not be true and if it is true that's not a bad plan. He has to use up three years of eligibility so get paid doing it and maybe bring more high profile black players to HBCUs. Bring TV money and attendance to a place it's needed. Incredibly highly paid coaches (that get paid that money because the players work for free) are the ones complaining.
 
buckets said:
i mean...... is saban trying to say that no bama player has an NIL deal?
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He is trying to say that their deals are not directly tied to their recruitment to get them to matriculate at Bama. Basically some disingenuous bullshit so he can claim plausible deniability when he gets up on his soapbox.
 
Liquid Karma said:
He is trying to say that their deals are not directly tied to their recruitment to get them to matriculate at Bama. Basically some disingenuous bullshit so he can claim plausible deniability when he gets up on his soapbox.
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Not saying Saban is innocent here, but there is a difference between, say, your starting QB getting NIL deals before he has even played a snap, and so-called NIL deals that are secured with a recruit's signing. Basically, pay to play. There is also a difference between what NIL should be, which is capitalizing on your established reputation to make a bit of extra bank, and the aforementioned.

And now you have these blanket things going on where every scholarship player in a sport is getting a flat rate, which sure seems like an inducement to me.
 
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