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Next 3 Games Decide Our Season

last night's L was about as good an L as you can get imo (ex. going up in KP)

big enough for the committee to recognize too
 
Sirdeacsalot said:
If we lose to ND and beat NCst, Clempsun and L-Ville we are in.
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We would need to win on ACCT Wednesday to stay on the bubble and make the finals to be firmly in with a 9 seed or better. 25 is the magic number.
 
Sirdeacsalot said:
If we lose to ND and beat NCst, Clempsun and L-Ville we are in.
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if that happens, we'll be 5th place in a down ACC and 1-5 (1-3 at home) against the top 4 teams in conference

maybe we get in with one win in Brooklyn, but I would not want to bet on it (because if we lose our second game in Brooklyn, now we are 1-6 against the top 4 teams in the league)
 
We are presently tied for fifth in the conference with Virginia. Our resume will show two losses to both Miami and Duke, so we should assume they will be chosen before Wake. We have a 20 point win over UNC and a victory at Virginia. Advantage Wake. Saturday's game will determine our position with regard to Miami. A 20 point victory at Virginia Tech is advantage Wake. The final three games are must win. If Wake can win the final four games they should be considered the third best team in the ACC for the purposes of NCAA tournament selection prior to The ACC tournament. That could scramble everything for everyone except Duke.

Best course of action would be to win out and secure a bid as ACC champion. This team is capable of that accomplishment.
 
BlackjackMc said:
We are presently tied for fifth in the conference with Virginia. Our resume will show two losses to both Miami and Duke, so we should assume they will be chosen before Wake.
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ND and Miami have worse problems than us in getting an NCAA bid. Just one measure, NET for ND is 55 and 67 for Miami and Wake is 38. The NCAA has no obligation to sort bids by conferences. Sure if everything is equal, then having 2 wins over Wake might tip it, but it's not going to make up a gap on metrics that they also use.

Of course if we don't beat ND we'll have real problems.
 
Correct, everyone agrees if we win the last 4 we are in. The problem only occurs if we don’t.

It’s just not correct that the ACC that the ACC teams are fighting each other for the NCAA spots. We are fighting all the bubble teams.

In that regard, last nights UNC loss didn’t help us—it hurt us. All we have to hang on our flimsy “potential” quality win board is UNC, UVA, & VT. If those teams stumble to teams like Pitt it actually hurts our chances.
 
donaldross said:
Correct, everyone agrees if we win the last 4 we are in. The problem only occurs if we don’t.

It’s just not correct that the ACC that the ACC teams are fighting each other for the NCAA spots. We are fighting all the bubble teams.

In that regard, last nights UNC loss didn’t help us—it hurt us. All we have to hang on our flimsy “potential” quality win board is UNC, UVA, & VT. If those teams stumble to teams like Pitt it actually hurts our chances.
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I hear your point, but if Wake is fighting for a bubble spot, the more bubble teams lose the better. Especially to a shitty team like Pitt. Is that a Quad 3 loss?
 
Yeah really. First of all, it's always good if UNC loses and it's almost always good for Wake when UNC loses. We're directly competing with them for ACCT seeding and a NCAAT bid. That loss was good for Wake.
 
And the fact that falling to the 5th seed does zip for us. Assuming dook is #1, you still face dook in the semifinal. Better that UNC falls and we have the tiebreaker with them to send them to the 5th seed. Of course, despite the Pitt game last night, not sure playing UNC in the qtr would be attractive as they would be desperate.
 
WakeFanAdam said:
I hear your point, but if Wake is fighting for a bubble spot, the more bubble teams lose the better. Especially to a shitty team like Pitt. Is that a Quad 3 loss?
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Quad 4 loss. Worst loss UNC has had in at least 14 years. Pitt is ranked 188.
 
if WF can win out to get to 14-6, still a decent shot at a top 3 seed - Miami would need to lose 3 and has home games against UVA and VT and 3 road games, including Syracuse.
 
Deac83 said:
Of course, despite the Pitt game last night, not sure playing UNC in the qtr would be attractive as they would be desperate.
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Give me UNC in the Tourney. Their body language last night was awful. Punch them in the mouth and they will lay down and quit.
 
myDeaconmyhand said:
It’s February 19th, we are 21-7, 11-6 in the ACC and currently we are in 5th place.

3rd place Miami @ home (Sat. 12th)- Loss
1st place Duke away (Tues. 15th) - Loss
2nd place Notre Dame @ home (Sat. 19th) - Win

Currently we are predicted anywhere from 9th-11th seed in the NCAA tournament

My prediction for this 3 game result was:
- 1-2: we tread water, 10th -11th seed
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Our remaining games are:
@ Clemson (Net #89) Wed 02/23 [QUAD 2]
Louisville (Net #130) Sat 02/26 [QUAD 3]
NC State (Net #133)Wed 03/02 [QUAD 3]

Maybe us winning @Clemson as a quad 2 will make up for the Miami loss, I don’t think losing or winning that game will change our resume very much, but we certainly can’t afford to lose either of the remaining quad 3 home games.
 
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Deac83 said:
And the fact that falling to the 5th seed does zip for us. Assuming dook is #1, you still face dook in the semifinal. Better that UNC falls and we have the tiebreaker with them to send them to the 5th seed. Of course, despite the Pitt game last night, not sure playing UNC in the qtr would be attractive as they would be desperate.
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isn't a 4 seed a LOT better than 5, since you get the double bye?
 
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