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NBA offseason thread

Hollinger just eviscerated the NBA.

What does the league tell them when they have to settle for a lesser deal instead of this one, or lose Paul outright in free agency? Or when the Hornets have trouble even negotiating another Paul deal, for fear the league will swoop in at the last second after everybody on their roster has heard their name in trade talks?

Big picture, the league put itself in a tough spot the day it bought the Hornets & but it put itself in a much tougher one today. By setting an ugly, awful precedent, they've shown the entire league the ramp to a long, slippery slope.
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THE DEUCE said:
this trade sounded fishy in the first place....odom and kevin martin!!!!!!!????? please!
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NO was never doing better than Martin, Odom, Scola, and Drago plus a number one pick, with Gordon and Curry off the table.
 
I was all ready to order a #3 jersey to replace my #7 jersey tomorrow morning too... :(
 
Scorched earth from Yahoo.

As one rival executive with strong ties to the league office said, “Stern cared about two things: Selling that franchise for the best possible price; and showing the players that they weren’t going to dictate where teams could trade them. But now, there’s no way that the league can allow Chris Paul to be traded at all, otherwise Stern is basically deciding where one of the top players in the league is going versus having any fair process.”

Officials from New Orleans, Houston and Los Angeles were stunned Thursday night. The killed trade had ripple affects everywhere in free agency and potential trades, and literally pushed the market into paralysis on the even of training camps opening up.

“We were all told by the league he was a trade-able player, and now they’re saying that Dell doesn’t have the authority to make the trade?” said an NBA executive who had periodic talks with New Orleans throughout the process. “Now, they’re saying that Dell is an idiot, that he can’t do it his job. [Expletive] this whole thing. David’s drunk on power, and he doesn’t give a [expletive] about the players, and he doesn’t give a [expletive] about the hundreds of hours the teams put into make that deal.

“How do the Lakers explain this to Odom? How does Houston deal with the guys it just tried to trade? Scola and Martin are going to be pissed at them, and who knows how long that takes to get over? Explain to me how the league kills this Pau Gasol deal, but allows Kwame Brown for Pau Gasol?

“To me, this makes the league feel like it’s rigged, that Stern just does whatever Stern wants to do. He’s messed up the competitive balance of this league a lot worse by killing the deal, because you’ve completely destroyed the planning that New Orleans, Houston did and left them in shambles over this. I’ve never been so discouraged about this league, never so down.

“I mean, come on: Chris Paul is leaving New Orleans in 66 games. He’s gone. And what’s Dell Demps, and that franchise, going to have to show for it?”
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TERRIBLE call by the NBA. Chris Paul will be gone either way. They can either get something from it, or lose one of their biggest stars.
 
Apparently the Hornet's GM was strongly considering quitting and had to be talked into staying. This is turning into a clusterf***. There is even talk that players may threaten to strike or hold out as a sign of unison against the league.
 
IslandDeac said:
Apparently the Hornet's GM was strongly considering quitting and had to be talked into staying. This is turning into a clusterf***. There is even talk that players may threaten to strike or hold out as a sign of unison against the league.
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Hornets GM should have quit. Why stay in a position where you have no leverage? He's just going to be gone in a couple years anyway as CP3 was their only hope to improve their roster.
 
Man, that Lamar Odom and SAS interview probably more than anything I've ever heard kind of hit home that these trades effect peoples lives, and that these athletes aren't all just playing for a paycheck.
 
Dan Gilbert angry email to David Stern about the trade. Not sure if it was in Comic Sans or not. Not surprisingly factual errors present.

Commissioner,

It would be a travesty to allow the Lakers to acquire Chris Paul in the apparent trade being discussed.

This trade should go to a vote of the 29 owners of the Hornets.

Over the next three seasons this deal would save the Lakers approximately $20 million in salaries and approximately $21 million in luxury taxes. That $21 million goes to non-taxpaying teams and to fund revenue sharing.

I cannot remember ever seeing a trade where a team got by far the best player in the trade and saved over $40 million in the process. And it doesn’t appear that they would give up any draft picks, which might allow to later make a trade for Dwight Howard. (They would also get a large trade exception that would help them improve their team and/or eventually trade for Howard.) When the Lakers got Pau Gasol (at the time considered an extremely lopsided trade) they took on tens of millions in additional salary and luxury tax and they gave up a number of prospects (one in Marc Gasol who may become a max-salary player).

I just don’t see how we can allow this trade to happen.

I know the vast majority of owners feel the same way that I do.

When will we just change the name of 25 of the 30 teams to the Washington Generals?

Please advise….

Dan G.
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Deadbolt said:
This needs to happen so the Hornets can fold, move to Seattle and sell the Hornets name back to Charlotte.
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I think NO is staying, they just signed something like a 10 year lease and its supposedly ironclad. All the hornets local pundits have said there's 0% chance the Hornets leave anytime soon as a result, and they're a pessimistic bunch.
 
Fuck Your Couch said:
Dan Gilbert angry email to David Stern about the trade. Not sure if it was in Comic Sans or not. Not surprisingly factual errors present.
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The similarities between Gilbert's email and the OWS movement are striking. What a whiny bitch.
 
buckets said:
The similarities between Gilbert's email and the OWS movement are striking. What a whiny bitch.
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I don't know, Gilbert somewhat has a point. But so does everyone scorching the league over this. I think you have to trust Dell to make an arms length transaction and live with it. Letting the other teams say what the Hornets can trade just makes the whole NBA stink, eventhough they are the owners.

I think Stern was on Simmons podcast saying that Weber and Dell have complete control over the basketball decisions about a year ago. I should re-listen to it.
 
BTW, Broussard reporting Dwight has caved and willing to go to the Nets now. Brook Lopez and 2 first round picks. I guess Stern isn't going to drop the block hammer on this one because New Jersey has sucked.
 
palmab03 said:
I don't know, Gilbert somewhat has a point. But so does everyone scorching the league over this. I think you have to trust Dell to make an arms length transaction and live with it. Letting the other teams say what the Hornets can trade just makes the whole NBA stink, eventhough they are the owners.

I think Stern was on Simmons podcast saying that Weber and Dell have complete control over the basketball decisions about a year ago. I should re-listen to it.
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And, as we've already mentioned, Dell's trade was excellent, especially when compared to Gilbert's own lame-duck-GM.
 
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