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2013 GRAND SLAM CONTEST - THE Open Championship - Eckhouse wins!

CheesePritchard said:
cville, I've seen you say you don't like about 5 golfers today. Who do you like?
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:) Actually, I like most of them fine. Never been a Tiger or Phil fan (though am coming round to Phil a tad). And don't like most of the older Euros, with the exception of Clarke and Jiminez. I like most of the younger Euros, with the exception of Poulter. I like most of the other Americans, South Africans, Aussies, Asians and Cabrera. So with Tiger, Phil, Westwood and Poulter occupying most of the top of the leaderboard, I was having a hard time finding a rooting interest.
 
bobknightfan said:
No. I took it as a direct slap at me, since I had already said that I was pulling for Poulter & Westwood. I've seen too many stunts like that on these boards.....someone makes a smartass comment, then sheepishly says that it was just a joke when they get called on it. Do you think being called a communist is a joke?
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I think you need to lighten up.
 
It's not like he said all republican voters should be round up and shot.
 
bobknightfan said:
That's not what I said, either, but don't let inaccuracy get in your way when making a post.

(The comment that I made which you are referring to...though misquoted...did not specify any political party's voters. It referred to all voters who voted for one particular candidate in one particular election. And I have since admitted on these boards that it was a comment that I should not have made. Don't remember Shorty defending me about it, though, by telling posters who criticized me "don't you think it's possible that he was just joking?")
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I still think you need to lighten up.
 
FINAL STANDINGS:

Eckhouse's team of Phil, Adam Scott, Jason Day, Henrik Stenson, Jordan Speith, and Jonas Blixt wins!

Place Entrant Low 4 Bonus Total
1 Eckhouse 6 -9 -3
2 tau06 6 -6 0
3 Teamramrod 6 -5 1
4 Vegas Jethro 8 -6 2
5 Fayettenam 9 -6 3
5 matt 9 -6 3
7 Deacon 10 -6 4
8 NFDeac 11 -6 5
9 bobknightfan 9 -2 7
10 HTTD 13 -5 8
10 Les Grossman 14 -6 8
12 MrBojanglesDad 17 -6 11
12 West End Deac 17 -6 11
12 Nonny 16 -5 11
15 deacref 14 - 14
15 DirktheDeac 19 -5 14
17 qcdeac 21 -5 16
17 deac29 18 -2 16
19 nomadic 18 -1 17
20 Satan 19 -1 18
20 ipitytheblue 19 -1 18
22 texasdeac 20 -1 19
22 numbers 19 - 19
22 DCDeac 24 -5 19
25 Cumberland 21 - 21
25 mebanedeac 26 -5 21
27 LiquidKarma 22 - 22
27 CarlosBerg 23 -1 22
27 bluefish 22 - 22
27 cville deac 25 -3 22
31 rjkarl 24 - 24
31 stonz 24 - 24
33 1985 Deac 25 - 25
34 doofus 27 - 27
35 High Right 33 - 33
36 rocket 35 -1 34
37 Sleepy 37 -1 36
38 Hogie 44 - 44
39 TWDeac 46 - 46
40 deacman5 CUT CUT CUT
40 MrBojangles CUT CUT CUT
40 DeaconSlim2.0 CUT CUT CUT
40 ChicdeaC CUT CUT CUT
40 PhonsoINT CUT CUT CUT
40 YDIW CUT CUT CUT

Grand Slam cumulative standings will be posted Monday.
 
JasonSobelGC tweeting today:

The genius of Phil: Complains about setup Thursday. Other players agree. R&A responds. Waters course. Easier for guy who struggles on links.

There's no doubt Phil had agenda with Thursday's post-round comments. Helped manipulate potential strategy around Muirfield. Brilliant plan.

Not suggesting he wouldn't/couldn't have won without R&A watering course. But he got what he wanted. More benefit mentally than otherwise.

And don't me wrong: Manipulation has negative connotations, but Phil knows how to work the system. Even just a little bit. Smart man.
 
Not to belabor the point, but zach, angel, and poults all personally congratulated Phil today, and rose, Donald, ogilvy, crane, fowler, and Bradley all congratulated on him twitter (that I saw), and none were just perfunctory congratulations. If nothing else, the 'nobody likes him ship' has sailed (will admit that may have been true 7 years ago).
 
So the only thing we learned in this thread is that bkf is a communist, seems about right. At least the commies didn't win today.
 
Okay, Bubba, it's really over this time. I'm turning my back on you. I know I said that after the U.S. Open, but it's true this time.

When the PGA rolls around, I'm lashing myself to the mast and stuffing my ears full of bee's wax.
 
Overall Grand Slam Contest

Scoring Methodology:
As in golf, the lower the score, the better.

Base score: For each event, it is the place you finished in. For teams that missed the cut, all of them tied for last place amongst entrants (i.e 65 for The Masters since 64 teams made the cut). For people that did not submit a team for that event, their base score is tied for "last place" (i.e 74 for The Masters since 73 teams entered).

Cut Adjusment: Negative one point for each of the 6 golfers that made the cut.

So, the best theoretical score for each event is -5 (1 point for placing first, and -6 if all six golfers made the cut).

Masters US Open British
Rank Player Total Place Cut Adj Place Cut Adj Place Cut Adj
1 bobknightfan 13 5 -5 14 -5 9 -5
2 matt 28 28 -5 8 -4 5 -4
3 Les Grossman 29 31 -5 1 -4 10 -4
4 Cumberland 31 5 -5 16 -6 25 -4
4 NFDeac 31 33 -5 4 -5 8 -4
6 deacman5 36 4 -6 5 -4 40 -3
7 stonz 38 16 -6 6 -5 31 -4
8 Vegas Jethro 39 20 -5 30 -4 4 -6
9 High Right 40 1 -6 21 -6 35 -5
10 texasdeac 41 23 -5 9 -4 22 -4
11 Eckhouse 42 33 -4 22 -4 1 -6
12 rocket 43 12 -6 9 -4 36 -4
13 Teamramrod 44 53 -6 2 -4 3 -4
14 DirktheDeac 45 5 -6 38 -3 15 -4
15 ChicdeaC 49 12 -4 7 -4 40 -2
16 rjkarl 58 2 -5 38 -3 31 -5
16 Nonny 58 26 -4 33 -4 12 -5
18 qcdeac 59 31 -6 27 -5 17 -5
18 tau06 59 61 -4 11 -5 2 -6
20 numbers 61 28 -6 26 -4 22 -5
20 Fayettenam 61 33 -6 38 -3 5 -6
22 DCDeac 68 49 -4 11 -4 22 -6
23 nomadic 69 42 -5 23 -4 19 -6
24 ATLDeac 70 14 -5 19 -4 46 0
25 aocs3281 73 23 -5 14 -5 46 0
26 deacondamo 78 38 -5 3 -4 46 0
27 cville deac 80 28 -5 38 -3 27 -5
27 HTTD 80 45 -6 38 -2 10 -5
29 deac29 83 65 -2 13 -5 17 -5
30 DeacGeneral11 84 14 -4 33 -5 46 0
30 LiquidKarma 84 33 -5 38 -3 27 -6
32 1834 86 9 -5 38 -2 46 0
32 Baller Deac 86 9 -5 38 -2 46 0
34 jamesda3 87 22 -5 28 -4 46 0
35 West End Deac 88 65 -3 23 -4 12 -5
36 ipitytheblue 90 45 -5 38 -3 20 -5
37 bluefish 92 63 -5 18 -6 27 -5
38 doofus 94 33 -4 38 -2 34 -5
39 Hockeydc55 98 3 -6 55 0 46 0
39 TripleDeacon 98 38 -6 25 -5 46 0
41 Rubbins 100 5 -6 55 0 46 0
41 CarlosBerg 100 55 -4 31 -5 27 -4
43 deacref 102 65 -3 36 -5 15 -6
44 deacfan2 105 9 -5 55 0 46 0
44 mebanedeac 105 60 -5 33 -4 25 -4
46 PhonsoINT 106 38 -5 38 -3 40 -2
47 TWDeac 107 64 -4 17 -5 39 -4
48 GboroDeac 112 17 -6 55 0 46 0
48 DeaconSlim2.0 112 45 -5 38 -3 40 -3
50 Sleepy 113 57 -4 32 -4 37 -5
51 WPDeac 114 17 -4 55 0 46 0
51 brophdawg 114 17 -4 55 0 46 0
53 cpadeac2010 115 20 -6 55 0 46 0
54 MrBojanglesDad 117 74 0 38 -3 12 -4
55 DeacdeTejas 120 25 -6 55 0 46 0
56 Partree 121 26 -6 55 0 46 0
57 1985 Deac 126 65 -3 38 -2 33 -5
57 Satan 126 59 -4 55 0 20 -4
59 Deacon 131 74 0 55 0 7 -5
60 MrBojangles 134 74 0 28 -5 40 -3
61 BillBrasky 135 38 -4 55 0 46 0
61 liveanddiedeac 135 74 0 19 -4 46 0
63 South Deac 138 42 -5 55 0 46 0
63 quertybirdie 138 42 -5 55 0 46 0
63 YDIW 138 65 -1 38 -2 40 -2
66 matt's dad 140 45 -6 55 0 46 0
67 Hogie 142 74 0 38 -3 38 -5
 
AnonymousDeac said:
JasonSobelGC tweeting today:

The genius of Phil: Complains about setup Thursday. Other players agree. R&A responds. Waters course. Easier for guy who struggles on links.

There's no doubt Phil had agenda with Thursday's post-round comments. Helped manipulate potential strategy around Muirfield. Brilliant plan.

Not suggesting he wouldn't/couldn't have won without R&A watering course. But he got what he wanted. More benefit mentally than otherwise.

And don't me wrong: Manipulation has negative connotations, but Phil knows how to work the system. Even just a little bit. Smart man.
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Worked pretty well for Poulter too with that clowns mouth tweet.
 
AnonymousDeac said:
JasonSobelGC tweeting today:

The genius of Phil: Complains about setup Thursday. Other players agree. R&A responds. Waters course. Easier for guy who struggles on links.

There's no doubt Phil had agenda with Thursday's post-round comments. Helped manipulate potential strategy around Muirfield. Brilliant plan.


Not suggesting he wouldn't/couldn't have won without R&A watering course. But he got what he wanted. More benefit mentally than otherwise.

And don't me wrong: Manipulation has negative connotations, but Phil knows how to work the system. Even just a little bit. Smart man.
Did I miss something or did everyone play the same course? If the course played easier for Phil did it play more difficult for everyone else? Or, was Phil the only one who played Muirfield ? Can't quiet follow the logic here.

What I can grasp is that Phil played one of the best rounds in final round OPEN history. From 5 down to win by 3 is remarkable. Being the only player under par of the week is pretty strong too.
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That was an insane round and one of the best I can remember under that situation.
Mebane obviously they played the same course, but certainly you should be able to follow the logic that course setup or conditions can benefit one type of player over another.
 
qcdeac said:
That was an insane round and one of the best I can remember under that situation.
Mebane obviously they played the same course, but certainly you should be able to follow the logic that course setup or conditions can benefit one type of player over another.
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I don't understand how more receptive greens and more accessible pin placements did not benefit every player in the field.
 
bobknightfan said:
They did....but they benefitted Mickelson, who in 19 previous Opens had 4 cuts and an average finish of 38.5 in his other 15 tournaments, more than others due to the obvious difficulty he has had over the years with links courses. I believe that this is the point that is being made.
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I understand the point. Perhaps it helped him mentally, perhaps it made him think differently and enabled him to play more confidently. But every player had the same opportunity that he had. Phil made exceptional shots, especially coming down the wire. That shot on 18 was very risky. Typical Phil, but it turned out better than many.

It seems to me that Phil's commits after round 1 benefited the entire field.
 
mebanedeac said:
I understand the point. Perhaps it helped him mentally, perhaps it made him think differently and enabled him to play more confidently. But every player had the same opportunity that he had. Phil made exceptional shots, especially coming down the wire. That shot on 18 was very risky. Typical Phil, but it turned out better than many.

It seems to me that Phil's commits after round 1 benefited the entire field.
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Mebane, do you understand how some courses benefit some players more than others? Some players prefer long courses. Some players struggle on narrow courses. Some players have great recovery skills and thus prefer courses with more difficulty when missing the fairway.

If you don't get this concept, I understand why you're not understanding Sobel's point.
 
AnonymousDeac said:
Mebane, do you understand how some courses benefit some players more than others? Some players prefer long courses. Some players struggle on narrow courses. Some players have great recovery skills and thus prefer courses with more difficulty when missing the fairway.

If you don't get this concept, I understand why you're not understanding Sobel's point.
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Of course I understand that. I guess I am resistant to the idea that Phil's win was more the product of his manipulation of the R&A than it was the result of hard work in learning to play links courses and exceptional self-control (for Phil) esp. in the final round. I don't think enough credit is being given to the changes that he made in his game and to the brilliance of his shot making.
 
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