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Obama will need Israel to sway votes in Congress

The only dick sucker he is you. But that's given how much you enjoy it.

Idiots like Brasky can't understand that the group they still support starts with a premise to go to war based on lies and occupy countries and they did it.

Obama has stated he will end the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and bring our troops home and has. He helped overthrow Libya saying he wouldn't send troops and didn't. He said he would go after and kill AQ leaders wherever they were (something Brasky's boys were too chickenshit to do) and he has.

So far when it comes to using US force Obama has done what he said he would do. His entire upper echelon (including himself) opposes the use of US troops.

The entire Brasky/W wing of this board NEEDS Obama to send troops to cover their support of sending US heroes to die based on intentional lies.

Nothing Obama has done in five years lends itself to the notion that he will ever send troops to Syria.
 
What if iran launches an assault on Israel in some wild response to our attacks on its ally?
 
RJKarl said:
The only dick sucker he is you. But that's given how much you enjoy it.

Idiots like Brasky can't understand that the group they still support starts with a premise to go to war based on lies and occupy countries and they did it.

Obama has stated he will end the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and bring our troops home and has. He helped overthrow Libya saying he wouldn't send troops and didn't. He said he would go after and kill AQ leaders wherever they were (something Brasky's boys were too chickenshit to do) and he has.

So far when it comes to using US force Obama has done what he said he would do. His entire upper echelon (including himself) opposes the use of US troops.

The entire Brasky/W wing of this board NEEDS Obama to send troops to cover their support of sending US heroes to die based on intentional lies.

Nothing Obama has done in five years lends itself to the notion that he will ever send troops to Syria.
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RJ - This is a fucking awful post and pretty much everything in it is completely wrong. Starting from the premise that Brasky approved of everything Bush did and continuing through your assertion that we put no boots on the ground in Libya.

I'm usually on your side, but you are dead wrong on this issue.
 
There is NO reason to think Obama will send any troops to Syria.

What's wrong is you have been trapped by the RW brainwashing machine.

EVERY person in Obama;s inner circle of diplomatic and military adviser have CATEGORICALLY stated NO BOOTS ON THE GROUND.

In five years of his tenure that he would do this and no evidence that such a strong a position would be changed.

You are simply being suckered by the hate Obama crew.
 
Yeah, BeachBum is the brainwashed poster. :bowrofl:
 
RJKarl said:
There is NO reason to think Obama will send any troops to Syria.

What's wrong is you have been trapped by the RW brainwashing machine.

EVERY person in Obama;s inner circle of diplomatic and military adviser have CATEGORICALLY stated NO BOOTS ON THE GROUND.

In five years of his tenure that he would do this and no evidence that such a strong a position would be changed.

You are simply being suckered by the hate Obama crew.
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Then it's fine if the Congressional authorization says specifically no boots on the ground.... right?

And John Kerry fumbled through a non-answer when asked if they would put any boots on the ground. So the bolded part is just dead wrong
 
ImTheCaptain said:
What if iran launches an assault on Israel in some wild response to our attacks on its ally?
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Israel will blow the Syrian AF off the face of the Earth in two hours and blow a lot of Iran up if they choose to do.
 
BeachBumDeac said:
Then it's fine if the Congressional authorization says specifically no boots on the ground.... right?

And John Kerry fumbled through a non-answer when asked if they would put any boots on the ground. So the bolded part is just dead wrong
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WRONG Kerry specifically said "No boots on the ground" yesterday.
 
RJKarl said:
WRONG Kerry specifically said "No boots on the ground" under oath.
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http://www.theatlantic.com/politics...-in-syria-john-kerrys-facepalm-moment/279312/

"Mr. Chairman, it would be preferable not to, not because there is any intention or any plan or any desire whatsoever to have boots on the ground," Kerry replied. "And I think the president will give you every assurance in the world, as am I, as has the secretary of defense and the chairman.

"But in the event Syria imploded, for instance, or in the event there was a threat of a chemical weapons cache falling into the hands of al-Nusra or someone else and it was clearly in the interest of our allies and all of us, the British, the French and others, to prevent those weapons of mass destruction falling into the hands of the worst elements, I don't want to take off the table an option that might or might not be available to a president of the United States to secure our country."
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RJKarl said:
Obama has stated he will end the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and bring our troops home and has.
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He actually tried to keep troops in Iraq and go back on the agreement the Bush Administration signed to withdraw our forces.
President Obama’s speech formally declaring that the last 43,000 U.S. troops will leave Iraq by the end of the year was designed to mask an unpleasant truth: The troops aren’t being withdrawn because the U.S. wants them out. They’re leaving because the Iraqi government refused to let them stay.
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Obama campaigned on ending the war in Iraq but had instead spent the past few months trying to extend it. A 2008 security deal between Washington and Baghdad called for all American forces to leave Iraq by the end of the year, but the White House -- anxious about growing Iranian influence and Iraq’s continuing political and security challenges -- publicly and privately tried to sell the Iraqis on a troop extension. As recently as last week, the White House was trying to persuade the Iraqis to allow 2,000-3,000 troops to stay beyond the end of the year.
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http://www.nationaljournal.com/u-s-troop-withdrawal-motivated-by-iraqi-insistence-not-u-s-choice-20111021
Also, more than twice as many U.S. troops have been killed in Afghanistan under Obama’s leadership (1,629 in four-plus years) than under Bush’s (630 in seven-plus years).
 
When Kerry said the magic words, he had to add a qualifier:

"But if you want to know whether there's any -- you know, the answer is, whatever prohibition clarifies it to Congress and the American people, there will not be American boots on the ground with respect to the civil war."
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What about after the civil war is over? During the power vacuum, when various factions are trying to assert control over the country?
 
Obama CATEGORICALLY stated NO BOOTS ON THE GROUND..

you are being ridiculous.
 
BeachBumDeac said:
What about after the civil war is over? During the power vacuum, when various factions are trying to assert control over the country?
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Or when our bombing provokes an attack on Israel or another terrorist attack here in the US? It's political speak, plain and simple. Every promise has a qualifier. Most of us, no matter our political leanings, seem to be aware of this truth.
 
RJKarl said:
Obama CATEGORICALLY stated NO BOOTS ON THE GROUND..

you are being ridiculous.
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Obama also categorically said he'd close Guantanamo. Your obsession with this is absurd.

Situations change. No one can guarantee what will happen tomorrow or the next day.
 
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RJKarl said:
Obama CATEGORICALLY stated NO BOOTS ON THE GROUND..

you are being ridiculous.
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He also said he would get our troops out of Iraq, and then worked to keep them there. You sound brainwashed.
 
RJKarl said:
Israel will blow the Syrian AF off the face of the Earth in two hours and blow a lot of Iran up if they choose to do.
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Yeah, and you'll be SCREAMING for the US to intervene, which we would have to do thanks to our agreements. You're being a clown.
 
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