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Official Hoops Coaching Search Thread - Welcome Danny Manning!!!

"Time will tell"
You can say this about any hire. We all hope Manning works out and ends up being a great hire. But just because someone might end up being great doesn't make it a great hire- it doesn't even make it an acceptable hire.
 
deacvision7 said:
The problem with Wellman making a C- or C grade hire here is that he had a failing grade going into the Final and needed to pull off at least a B+ to pass.
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Unless the coach proves to be a A and then no one will care about the old F
 
ChrisL68 said:
Between Strickland's idiotic arguments that Manning's time at Tulsa has been evidence of bad coaching, bdz's "what if chris paul was cliff paul, state farm insurance agent?" argument, and bsf's temper tantrums, I lose brain cells every time I revisit this thread.
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I like you Chris but just put us on ignore if our posts are that upsetting to you. Not worth losing brain cells over.
 
BobStackFan4Life said:
"Time will tell"
You can say this about any hire. We all hope Manning works out and ends up being a great hire. But just because someone might end up being great doesn't make it a great hire- it doesn't even make it an acceptable hire.
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So if he ends up being great it won't be considered a great hire? Makes sense
 
IAppreciateIt said:
#Density

Danny Manning is a better candidate than the hypothetical Alan Smith. Alan Smith would be an okay candidate, though. I posted that but you ignored it and instead chose to respond to the donks. The point, that is quite obvious, is that Manning has a resume outside of his bball experience, but the experience does make him a better candidate than if he didn't have it.
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Of course Danny Manning is a better candidate than Alan Smith. But I missed your post about standing up for Alan. Can you recap why? I'm honestly curious. You've been tracking these low/mid-major dudes all season.
 
ChrisL68 said:
Between Strickland's idiotic arguments that Manning's time at Tulsa has been evidence of bad coaching, bdz's "what if chris paul was cliff paul, state farm insurance agent?" argument, and bsf's temper tantrums, I lose brain cells every time I revisit this thread.
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Where did I write that it's evidence of bad coaching? It's an uninspired and uninspiring hire and we're having to spin it mightily to make Manning sound like a better coaching prospect than he is and his fairly nonexistent resume suggests.

It's also funny that Steed Lobotzke's most ardent supporter is complaining about losing brain cells.
 
IrishSlim said:
A few things:

1) You sound just like Ph in this post. Not a criticism, just an observation. It's pitch-perfect.
2) You're using LOWF properly here. Thank you. The board definitely needs a tutorial when this is all said and done.
3) It's a message board. Speculation and stupid discussions are what we do.
4) Of course we're allowed to grade the hire. But doing so in a vacuum, where things like "Manning's professional career" and "Other coaches turning us down" don't exist is a foolish exercise, and being used by some posters as an excuse for temper tantrums.
5) You sidestepped the question, albeit artfully. Still a sidestep.
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I'm sure Wellman is pretty happy knowing that he can shove [Redacted] on us and piss all over the fans for four years, and then claim to still be right, and then make a decidedly underwhelming hire while Va Tech hits a home run, and even the most fanatical Wake fans are all "I'm willing to see how this plays out."

Fucking shit, our coaching jobs must be unattractive but our AD position must look like this:

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bigdoublezero said:
1. Rather sound like Ph than dv7 with a vocabulary.
2. Let's set up a masterclass
3. Except when I ask whether we're inflating Manning's bona fides because OWGs will recognize his name.
4. Everyone seems to have been fed inside info on what coaches across the country have said about our opening. I'd like to see some sourcing on that.
5. We should hire Ben Howland, warts and all. Back up the Brinks truck.
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1. Ouch. Words are hurtful!
2. Perfect for May.
3. Manning's own past elevates his name. The way of the world.
4. Asking for sourcing from a Wellman-led coaching search is like suggesting Maya Smart should get a professorship in the Math Department.
5. IN on Howland. That's what the questions and angst should focus on, IMO - not Manning's resume, but how did we get to Manning's name so quickly - who did we skip over and why?
 
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We struck out with: Shaka, Miller, Amaker, Mack. Is that the consensus? Manning is number 5 on the list?
 
BobStackFan4Life said:
I'm guessing he must've been number 4 or 5, which makes you wonder how qualified the remaining 28 were. Ron wanted a big name hire. Oh well. Hope for the best.
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#6 actually by my count:

Shaka
Mack
Amaker
Miller
White
Manning
 
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Strickland33 said:
Where did I write that it's evidence of bad coaching? It's an uninspired and uninspiring hire and we're having to spin it mightily to make Manning sound like a better coaching prospect than he is and his fairly nonexistent resume suggests.

It's also funny that Steed Lobotzke's most ardent supporter is complaining about losing brain cells.
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I was more a Jim Grobe supporter than a Steed Lobotzke supporter. Has nothing to do with this thread though.
 
It is interesting that most outside of the admittedly biased view that we have, see this as a pretty good hire from what I can tell.

I am in the camp that thinks he will do a good job here. He is not a Shaka or Marshall type coach, but I think he will prove to be a good hire for Wake (should it occur).

It's sad that there is a headline that says Tulsa or Wake though. While I don't necessarily blame Ron Wellman if he reached out to all the big time candidates and they said no, it is certainly his fault that the program is viewed like it is by those big names. No way around that one.
 
Ball State Deac said:
Wonder how far down the list of 33 manning was?
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Completely forgot about the famous List of 33. I'm guessing 9-12. There may be some randos we've never mentioned who were contacted.
 
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