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Turkey shot down a Russian jet

Wasn't that long ago the Russians...er...totally not the Russians...shot down a plane.
 
surely doesn't seem like a mistake. the Turks are pretty adamant that they knew what they were doing.
 
yeah, defense of sovereign airspace. im not surprised Turkey was fed up with incursions given the way Russia annexed Crimea and is doing so in Ukraine
 
yeah, defense of sovereign airspace. im not surprised Turkey was fed up with incursions given the way Russia annexed Crimea and is doing so in Ukraine

I get this, but does anyone think that if a Russian plane made two passes 2 miles into our airspace in Alaska that we would just shoot them down?
 
no, but Russia would never invade or attempt to annex Alaska or incite revolt there, either. Ya'll don't tug on superman's cape, bruh
 
This is as good a time as a reminder as any - Russia's SU-24's are using badly outdated avionics to the point where pilots are just buying commercial handheld GPS and rubber banding them to their HUD's.

 
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jesus christ, their fighter pilots are using Garmans on the back of the US GPS satellite system? and this is the nation with the world's largest nuclear arsenal?

thanks, obama
 
sorry, mistake in the sense of blunder, not thought all the way through, rather than mistake in the sense that they did not really mean to shoot it down
 
jesus christ, their fighter pilots are using Garmans on the back of the US GPS satellite system? and this is the nation with the world's largest nuclear arsenal?

thanks, obama

Well, Garmin does offer watches that use GLONASS.
 
This may be a stupid question, but why is Turkey in the North Atlantic Treaty Organization?

At least I think that's what it stands for.
 
This may be a stupid question, but why is Turkey in the North Atlantic Treaty Organization?

At least I think that's what it stands for.

Turkey and Greece were added during the Cold War in the 50s because of their strong anti-Commie governments. Their geographic position far from the Atlantic was almost entirely the point - they were supposed to be a bulwark against the spread of the Soviet Union.
 
Also, after briefly scanning its wikipedia, it seems that Turkey is basically the only country to ever invoke Article 4 (which requires all NATO members to consult about stuff), and they did it five times. Poland once.
 
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