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Sexual Assault Ignored at Baylor

Stanford swimmer gets six months in jail for rape.
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...l&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer

Turner, who is from Dayton, Ohio, was arrested on the Palo Alto campus on 18 January 2015 after two Stanford graduate students spotted him lying on top of the victim outside of a Kappa Alpha party behind a dumpster. When officers arrived, the woman, who is not a Stanford student, was “completely unresponsive” and partially clothed, with a blood-alcohol level three times the legal limit, according to police.
The two witnesses who were biking past that evening said they saw Turner “thrusting” on top of the motionless woman and that they intervened and held him until police showed up.
Turner, who had a blood-alcohol level that was twice the legal limit, testified in court that he could walk and talk at the time and acknowledged that the victim was “very drunk”. He claimed that he did not intend to rape the woman and that the encounter was consensual.
The victim, who gave emotional testimony during the trial, regained consciousness at a hospital more than three hours after the assault and told police she had no memory of the attack.
After a jury convicted Turner of sexually penetrating an intoxicated and unconscious person with a foreign object, prosecutors asked a judge to sentence him to six years in California prison. Probation officials had recommended the significantly lighter penalty of six months in county jail, according to the San Jose Mercury News.
The judge, Aaron Perksy, cited Turner’s age and lack of criminal history as factors in his decision, saying, “A prison sentence would have a severe impact on him … I think he will not be a danger to others.”
After the hearing, Santa Clara County district attorney Jeff Rosen slammed the sentencing, which will likely result in Turner spending three months behind bars – a fraction of the maximum 14 years he was potentially facing.
“The punishment does not fit the crime.”

Here is what the victim read to the rapist in court. I recommend reading the entire thing.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/katiejmbak...read-to-her-ra?utm_term=.uc7l6W7dP#.kkgP5Wr7O
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I am sure I will get slammed for this... but why is it the drunk male's fault only? Because he has a penis?
 
Ah. The old "drunk bitches can't be raped" defense.
 
I am sure I will get slammed for this... but why is it the drunk male's fault only? Because he has a penis?

You're blaming an unconscious woman here ?

Also, sexual assault conviction, not rape. Just for clarification.
 
I am sure I will get slammed for this... but why is it the drunk male's fault only? Because he has a penis?

You can;t be serious, One woman was unconscious,

Tell me what can a 110 pound girl do against a 260-320 man who lifts weights and is quick?

You deserve to slammed about this. You are trying to justify rape and blame the victim,
 
Pretty sure most rapists don't weigh 300 lbs, but I get your point.
 
Pretty sure most rapists don't weigh 300 lbs, but I get your point.

The ones in THESE cases do,

It's early. I missed that this was also about the Stanford case. My bad.
 
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It's really hard to discuss stuff like this without sounding like a fucking asshole.

This guy (Stanford story posted above) was clearly in the wrong and should have been and has been punished.



But when two people are equally intoxicated (to be clear, NOT to the extent of the girl in this case), why is one to blame more than the other. Again....I'm talking extremely less severe cases than this.

But it does seem odd for one person to be a victim of their intoxication and the other be a criminal of it. If a girl drinks and is thus considered unable to make decisions effectively, couldn't the same be said about a guy that drinks and makes questionable decisions?

I fully expect to be lambasted for even bringing something like this up, and it has nothing to do with this case...the guy in this story did things to someone who was most definitely 100% a victim. I'm just curious about the subject when it's a less extreme situation where both parties are equally intoxicated, and of course where violence is not involved.

There probably aren't many here who haven't had sex while drunk. If your partner was also drinking or drunk, were those all just unreported assaults?
 
The ones in THESE cases do,

It's early. I missed that this was also about the Stanford case. My bad.

Yeah, he's a swimmer. Not 300 lbs. Would be a hell of a college diver though at 300 lbs, converting the Cannonball off the 3-meter board.
 
It's really hard to discuss stuff like this without sounding like a fucking asshole.

This guy (Stanford story posted above) was clearly in the wrong and should have been and has been punished.



But when two people are equally intoxicated (to be clear, NOT to the extent of the girl in this case), why is one to blame more than the other. Again....I'm talking extremely less severe cases than this.

But it does seem odd for one person to be a victim of their intoxication and the other be a criminal of it. If a girl drinks and is thus considered unable to make decisions effectively, couldn't the same be said about a guy that drinks and makes questionable decisions?

I fully expect to be lambasted for even bringing something like this up, and it has nothing to do with this case...the guy in this story did things to someone who was most definitely 100% a victim. I'm just curious about the subject when it's a less extreme situation where both parties are equally intoxicated, and of course where violence is not involved.

There probably aren't many here who haven't had sex while drunk. If your partner was also drinking or drunk, were those all just unreported assaults?

At a basic level- it's all about consent. How drunk can you be and still give consent?
 
I am sure I will get slammed for this... but why is it the drunk male's fault only? Because he has a penis?

Being drunk doesn't absolve someone of their actions.

By law, we expect drunk people to not get behind the wheel and we should also expect them to not have sex with people who are unconscious.
 
And the assumption is that the male will always be consenting?
No. But because of the nature of sex, the man is usually the initiator of sexual activity. So it's up to him to ensure he receives positive consent most of the time.

If a woman stuck her finger up a guys butt without his consent, regardless of who was or wasn't drunk, that would be sexual assault.
 
No. But because of the nature of sex, the man is usually the initiator of sexual activity. So it's up to him to ensure he receives positive consent most of the time.

If a woman stuck her finger up a guys butt without his consent, regardless of who was or wasn't drunk, that would be sexual assault.

Yep. Apply this logic to other situations as well. If one drunk guy punches another drunk guy, do we say "how do we know the punchee didn't give consent?"
 
There probably aren't many here who haven't had sex while drunk. If your partner was also drinking or drunk, were those all just unreported assaults?

I think Texas law dictates that anytime there is alcohol involved, it is rape. That would make myself and everybody I know a rapist at some point.
 
Appreciate the comments....

Issues like that and other things that are mostly one-sided but can often have ambiguous circumstances always make me think.

Along those same lines are things like abortion when the guy wants the baby. It hurts my brain trying to communicate how it doesn't SEEM like it should be a one-sided issue.
 
There are multiple agencies that believe the ability to consent ends after the first drink.
 
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