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Wake Tennis 2017-2018

Undefeated ACC campaign is a pretty nice accomplishment. Hopefully they can repeat at the tourney and then work towards the natty. Petros lost quickly today, which seems weird.
 
Only 60 schools play ncaa hockey. 21 of those are d 2 or d3 playing up for hockey only. So maybe not that impressive

well, it goes without saying that 3 NCAA hockey championships in 10 years is nowhere near as impressive as what we're doing in men's tennis
 
well, it goes without saying that 3 NCAA hockey championships in 10 years is nowhere near as impressive as what we're doing in men's tennis

Agree. Who said otherwise?
I'm just placing your thoughts about BC in perspective.
 
yes - I'm placing other people's thoughts about BC's shitty athletic program in perspective

Yes, as you point out, BC is very good in hockey (actually both men's and women's). They have just been very, very bad in ACC sports this decade.
 
Wake men finish the year as undefeated ACC regular season champions, which is an extremely impressive result given that there are two other national top 5 teams (UVA and UNC) in the ACC this year. The tournament starts this week, with Wake getting a double bye into the quarters and will play their first match Friday.

The Wake women won their final regular season match today against BC. Wake will be the 6 seeds in the tourney and will have a bye and then play the winner of Syracuse/Louisville on Thursday.
 
so the men play the winner of nc state and va tech in their first round which is the quarters
 
Really impressive season for the men, one of the best regular seasons for any sport in Wake history ('08 men's soccer is the only one on par that I can think of, but I'm sure there were probably some field hockey ones too).

#6 seed for the women is their highest in a long time, definitely since Wyshner has been here. Could have a tough first match if they play Syracuse, since they just lost to them this weekend.
 
Only 60 schools play ncaa hockey. 21 of those are d 2 or d3 playing up for hockey only. So maybe not that impressive

That is probably similar to what the numbers are to how many programs play women's field hockey. Just saying.
 
That is probably similar to what the numbers are to how many programs play women's field hockey. Just saying.

There are 60 D1 men's hockey teams and 79 field hockey teams. Since this is the tennis thread, there are 260 men's and 316 women's tennis teams.
 
Really impressive season for the men, one of the best regular seasons for any sport in Wake history ('08 men's soccer is the only one on par that I can think of, but I'm sure there were probably some field hockey ones too).

#6 seed for the women is their highest in a long time, definitely since Wyshner has been here. Could have a tough first match if they play Syracuse, since they just lost to them this weekend.

This was only the 5th time in the history of Wake Forest that a team has completed the ACC regular season undefeated. Field hockey did it in 2002, 2003, and 2005 (4-0 or 5-0 records) and women's tennis in 2000 (8-0 record).
 
There are 60 D1 men's hockey teams and 79 field hockey teams. Since this is the tennis thread, there are 260 men's and 316 women's tennis teams.

there weren't 79 field hockey teams when WF won its championships

since BC joined the ACC, its men's basketball team is 70-132 in ACC regular season play, 8-12 in the ACC tournament, 3-3 in the NCAAT; WF is 68-134, 5-12, and 1-3

since joining the ACC, BC has been to 9 bowls; WF has been to five

go deacs
 
Wake Tennis 2016-2017

there weren't 79 field hockey teams when WF won its championships

since BC joined the ACC, its men's basketball team is 70-132 in ACC regular season play, 8-12 in the ACC tournament, 3-3 in the NCAAT; WF is 68-134, 5-12, and 1-3

since joining the ACC, BC has been to 9 bowls; WF has been to five

go deacs

Yep, BC had a solid athletic department, which is why the ACC wanted them to join. They have just been really bad the past 5 years, haven't won an ACC championship in any sport since 2007, and have some programs (like men's tennis) that are not even competitive. As noted at the beginning of this discussion, their men's tennis team hasn't won an ACC match in 5 years, so they have been about 0-70 over that stretch.
 
there weren't 79 field hockey teams when WF won its championships

since BC joined the ACC, its men's basketball team is 70-132 in ACC regular season play, 8-12 in the ACC tournament, 3-3 in the NCAAT; WF is 68-134, 5-12, and 1-3

since joining the ACC, BC has been to 9 bowls; WF has been to five

go deacs

Yeah but run the numbers since 2012 or so. They have been awful of late, and you're only looking at revenue sports, their non-revenue sports have generally been among the worst in the conference across the board (with the exception of a few random seasons).
 
Congrats to Wellman on the success of the tennis team.
 
Quick Noah Rubin question. He turned pro two years ago. He is currently #179 in the World. Has a career record of 3-9 in ATP events (that doesn't count satellite events).

In retrospect, was his decision to go pro after the 2015 season the right one?
 
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Quick Noah Rubin question. He turned pro two years ago. He is currently #179 in the World. Has a career record of 3-9 in ATP events (that doesn't count satellite events).

In retrospect, was his decision to go pro after the 2015 season the right one?

But after his parents spent a gazillion dollars, and split up over his tennis, he had no choice.
 
But after his parents spent a gazillion dollars, and split up over his tennis, he had no choice.

I'm going to go ahead and disagree with this. He would likely be ranked much higher if he didn't miss a significant part of last summer with an injury (he's also hurt right now). And going from college straight to the top 200 is a big deal, there are ton of college players who were #1 in the country that never make it there. He's winning matches in the main draw at Grand Slams. He's won multiple Challengers. He's made $300k in two years. He belongs on the pro tour.

Staying in college would have gotten him nowhere. He had no competition there. His game wasn't going to get better by playing only three or four actually competitive matches against college opponents over the course of a year.
 
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Quick Noah Rubin question. He turned pro two years ago. He is currently #179 in the World. Has a career record of 3-9 in ATP events (that doesn't count satellite events).

In retrospect, was his decision to go pro after the 2015 season the right one?

It's a good question. More tennis players are going to college and staying in college longer over the past 15 years because the college environment at the top schools provides so much support. In addition to getting a degree (which helps with tennis-related jobs in the future), they are getting coaching, training, medical care, nutrition, rackets/strings, travel, etc - all of which otherwise comes out of one's own budget.
 
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