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I don't come over here often, but is the use/misuse of irony often a topic of conversation in these here parts? Politics aside, Wrangor (among others) needs a tutorial on the subject. FWIW, the NBA thread on the sports board delves DEEP into it, for anyone interested. Cheers!
 
I don't come over here often, but is the use/misuse of irony often a topic of conversation in these here parts? Politics aside, Wrangor (among others) needs a tutorial on the subject. FWIW, the NBA thread on the sports board delves DEEP into it, for anyone interested. Cheers!

Great point. Thanks for coming over. Are you on a 'free irony' campaign? Its pretty interesting me that the misuse of irony is really concerning to you. Pretty ironical actually.
 
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"Arts and crafts giant Hobby Lobby Stores Inc. announced on Monday that effective immediately, the minimum wage for its full-time hourly employees at its stores and affiliate Hemisphere was increased to $14. The hourly wage for part-time employees was also increased to $9.50."
 
Progressive Howard Schultz /Starbucks: a national average $8.79 with 2 weeks unpaid vacation.

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/5153885


On Saturday, April 12, New York City workers and 15 Now (15now.org) activists gathered on the Fulton Mall in Brooklyn to participate in a national day of action against Starbucks Corporation. With more than 60 people present, including Green Party gubernatorial candidate Howie Hawkins, the protesters filled the sidewalk in front of the Fulton Street Starbucks to demand that CEO Howard Schultz put his money where his mouth is and pay his employees a minimum wage of $15 an hour. Part of a national movement advocating a $15-an-hour minimum wage, the protests were called in response to recent statements by Schultz who openly opposes the $15-an-hour minimum wage currently being debated in Seattle. Though Schultz told NPR's KPLU that a minimum wage increase is a good idea, and that his company could indeed manage to pay its employees the proposed $15 an hour that the Seattle city council is considering, he argued that the bill could have unintended consequences and that "most companies, especially small- and mid-sized companies, would not be able to afford it." Not surprisingly, Schultz offered no evidence for the claim that small businesses would be hurt by a $15-an-hour minimum wage. That's because almost all of the studies conducted have shown that there is, in fact, little correlation between higher minimum wages and employment. Economists at the University of California, Berkeley, for instance, recently analyzed the effects of minimum wage increases in San Francisco and eight other large cities and found that the impact on small businesses and employment was practically zero. They wrote of their findings, "Our studies show that the impact of these laws on workers' wages... is strong and positive and that none of the dire predictions of employment loss have come to pass." Besides offering no evidence for why $15 an hour would be bad for small businesses, Schultz also argued that any minimum wage increase in Seattle should be calculated by the "total compensation" an employee receives (such as health care, meals, and bus passes) and not merely the hourly wage. This idea of "total compensation" has been a contentious issue in the debate over the minimum wage in Seattle, and 15 Now advocates vehemently reject this idea, claiming that such an approach would undermine the very meaning of a "minimum wage" and would open the window for employers to manipulate the law to their advantage. Schultz is currently the highest paid CEO in the Northwest and in 2012 received a staggering $28.9 million from Starbucks. For comparison, the average pay for a Barista at Starbucks in 2012 was just $8.79 an hour, or about $17,580 a year for 40 hours work a week (minus two weeks unpaid vacation). Based on his previous year's earnings, Schultz would have had to work just 1.2 hours to earn what the average Starbucks barista makes in an entire year. That's about 1,644 times as much per year as the average worker. This sort of disparity is, to put it mildly, shocking. It is clear that Schultz's advocacy on behalf of small businesses is nothing more than an attempt to use them as a pawn to secure continued record profits for his company. Cynically hiding behind small businesses while paying your employees unsustainably low wages is not all right, and 15 Now activists are demanding that Schultz immediately raise the minimum wage of his employees to $15 an hour. After all, even he admits Starbucks can afford it. To learn more about the 15Now movement and the struggle for a $15 an hour minimum wage
 
Great point. Thanks for coming over. Haha. Are you on an 'free irony' campaign? Its pretty interesting me that the misuse of irony is really concerning to you. Pretty ironical actually.

Not irony, or ironical, but I think (hope?) you already know that.
 
Starbucks coffee is shit water. Worst coffee ever, and I mean coffee - not those pussy-ass lattes, I've never gotten one. Maybe people like them.

Looks like they suck as a company too, I hope they go out of business and dumbass America gets off the bandwagon.
 
Starbucks coffee is shit water. Worst coffee ever, and I mean coffee - not those pussy-ass lattes, I've never gotten one. Maybe people like them.

Looks like they suck as a company too, I hope they go out of business and dumbass America gets off the bandwagon.

Must admit that Schultz is a genius...how to get people to consistently pay (day after day) 3-4-5 dollars for 10-20 cents worth of product. He never thinks locally...never incorporates local baked goods...just flash frozen krap wrapped in some French branding to make it appear that what you are eating is not,in fact, the shit that it actually is. Combine this with the faux driftwood sloganeering about rain forests and the "Starbucks ethos"...all while Starbucks recycles less than 27% of its waste.

It is marketing at its finest.
 
FWIW, the La Boulange food brand that Starbucks has been rolling out originated in the Bay Area as a standalone company similar to Au Bon Pain or a high-end Panera, and its product is and was really good. That's why Starbucks bought it -- their commissary system produces quality baked goods all around SF and its surrounding markets. That said, I've heard through others outside the Bay Area that the stuff Starbucks is packaging as La Boulange is pretty lackluster (the La Boulange-branded goods I've seen even in SF Starbucks haven't been up to snuff), so I'm not sure if that's growing pains or a general lack of execution or is just indicative of not even an attempt to duplicate the model Starbucks bought.
 
FWIW, the La Boulange food brand that Starbucks has been rolling out originated in the Bay Area as a standalone company similar to Au Bon Pain or a high-end Panera, and its product is and was really good. That's why Starbucks bought it -- their commissary system produces quality baked goods all around SF and its surrounding markets. That said, I've heard through others outside the Bay Area that the stuff Starbucks is packaging as La Boulange is pretty lackluster (the La Boulange-branded goods I've seen even in SF Starbucks haven't been up to snuff), so I'm not sure if that's growing pains or a general lack of execution or is just indicative of not even an attempt to duplicate the model Starbucks bought.

I am sure you are correct...as a local SF bakery I am sure it is outstanding. Tastes and styles of bread were consistently different as I made my way across towns and cities throughout France and Italy in the mid 90's. It was one of the joys and I am sure that it has changed today. The homogenization of tastes takes some of the spice out of life, for me. It would not be that difficult for Starbucks to team up with local bakeries and share indigenous flavors...but alas, Starbucks is designed for the 'airline traveller'...the person "on the go" who is guaranteed the same frozen/microwaved 'flavor' whether in New York,London or Tokyo. Who wants to associate with backward locals anyway.
 
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