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NC Legislature & HC Reform

CHDeac

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Im a vocal opponent of the ACA. Its a bad law that has a negative impact on medical trend and will do little to control costs. BUT its the law and its gonna happen.

So whats does the NC legislature do? It votes to cease all funding of NCs partnership exchange, punting ALL responsibility back to the feds. Their argument: states rights. First these morons don't pass a state exchange bill, pushing Perdue (as required by federal law) to a federal-partnership exchange which still allows NC to have some control. Then, they vote to actually stop all work on this and basically tell the feds its all up to them. The NC DOI is in full melt down.

If this becomes law, the Feds take the whole enchilada and NC citizens get screwed by some warped view of states rights. HHS and CCIO will make all the calls, not NC's DOI (whose Commissioner is elected by the people).

On top of that, they then opt not to extend medicaid resulting in more North Carolinians to be uninsured.

Well played pubs. Well played.

As much as I dont like her, I might have to vote for Hagan if shes ends up running against either Berger or Tillis.
 
What do they propose that this will accomplish besides promoting the dictator/socialist takeover? Perhaps that is enough.

As a side note, I thought Foxx was in the running.
 
Sounds like they are cutting off their nose to spite their face.
 
The new NC legislature is doing their best to run this state into the ground as quickly and forcefully as possible.
 
McCrory withholding judgment on Medicaid expansion

Quote:
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"This bill is going to determine how we do Medicaid expansion, and that is simple — we're not going to do it," said bill sponsor Sen. Tom Apodaca, R-Henderson...


...A report this month by consultants hired by the state Department of Health and Human Services said the influx of federal Medicaid funds would result in doctors, drug makers, pharmacies, and medical equipment sellers increasing hiring, and the salaries paid the extra workers would add about $1.4 billion to North Carolina's economy. Total employment would increase by about 23,000 jobs, according to Regional Economic Models Inc., a Washington-based firm

Apodaca said he didn't believe Medicaid expansion would create new jobs overall because growth in health care spending would come from higher health insurance rates for other employers.
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Reminds me of this recent cartoon:

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Seems a bit short sighted but if you have ever met any of these people ypu come away with the feeling that they believe their principles trump all reasonable arguments against their stance. In answer to Senator Apodaka, I am a provider and would absolutely have to hire 1-2 new employees to see the estimated 90000 new recipients in my area.
 
Oh hey look. Expanding Medicaid would've SAVED MONEY, YOU FUCKING IDIOTS.

http://www.wral.com/study-medicaid-expansion-will-save-nc-money/12054196/

"The group, which has been studying the impact of the law in North Carolina, said the state would likely save $65.4 million from Medicaid expansion over the next eight years because of high federal match rates, offsets and new tax revenues."

None of those involve saving any money, chief, they are simply shifting the burden of the cost. But I guess that now counts as saving money in Obamerica.
 
Expanding Medicare so that more people could get preventive care from primary care doctors would save oodles of money from having to treat the chronic diseases they develop as a result of not having any primary care.
 
"The group, which has been studying the impact of the law in North Carolina, said the state would likely save $65.4 million from Medicaid expansion over the next eight years because of high federal match rates, offsets and new tax revenues."

None of those involve saving any money, chief, they are simply shifting the burden of the cost. But I guess that now counts as saving money in Obamerica.

seems accurate to me....
 
i freely admit that health care policy is mostly over my head. I do think that supporters of Medicaid expansion always gloss over this little detail: "Under the bill, the federal government will repay states all costs related to the expansion for three years and 90 percent thereafter. But opponents say Washington could back out of that promise, leaving states to shoulder the burden alone."

This kind of thing is how our entitlement state has gotten so big. We come up with a plan, say Medicare or SS, and make projections about how its going to get paid for. Then it turns out the projections were wildly inaccurate and it is much more costly than anyone ever thought, but a government program once passed can never be rolled back it seems. Basically, the states are being asked to expand this program and trust an IOU from the Feds to pay for it in perpetuity. But the Feds are swimming in debt and everyone knows that the existing Federal entitlement spending is unsustainable. If the Feds default on the IOU, NC will be in the position of either funding the shortfall or cutting benefits that people have come to rely on.

I don't agree with a lot of the stuff the GOP in Raleigh has done in the past couple years but I do think it prudent to look at this IOU from the feds with a healthy degree of skepticism.
 
This is not exactly on point, but the situation with infrastructure in this country is analogous to this question about Medicaid funding. This article is interesting. http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2013/02/03/181506/us-keeps-building-new-highways.html

The Feds pony up to build new roads, but they don't help with maintenance. So whenever a state accepts Federal dollars for a new road, it is taking on hidden costs down the road to maintain that road - and maintaining can often mean rebuilding- with no help from the Feds. There is no such thing as a free lunch.
 
seems accurate to me....

Who pays for the federal dollars to create the matches, the offsets, and the new state tax revenues? The state government is the homeless guy on the street playing hide the ball under the paper cup, and you poor saps are the suckers trying to follow it while his buddy the federal government is behind you lifting your wallet while you aren't looking.
 
Medicaid expansion a no-brainer

PUBLISHED SAT, JAN 19, 2013 08:00 P
BY DOUGLAS SEA AND MADISON HARDEE

In the next few months, Gov. Pat McCrory and the General Assembly will decide whether to expand Medicaid to cover about 500,000 low-income North Carolina residents who are uninsured.

The U.S. Supreme Court’s decision in National Federation of Independent Business v. Sebelius in 2012 upheld the Affordable Care Act but held that the Medicaid expansion provisions in the ACA, which take effect Jan. 1, 2014, are a state option. The choice is clear: Medicaid expansion is a great deal for North Carolina and will benefit not just the poor, but every state resident and business.

Permitting the Medicaid expansion to go forward will:


• Stimulate North Carolina’s economy. Like a hundred new businesses, Medicaid expansion will pump billions of new dollars into North Carolina’s economy. The federal government will pick up 100 percent of the cost of expansion for the first three years (2014-2016) and will cover at least 90 percent of the cost thereafter. This means $20 billion in new federal dollars throughout North Carolina over 10 years. The result will be thousands of new jobs and billions in revenue for N.C. businesses.

• Leverage Our Federal Tax Dollars. If N.C. does not expand Medicaid, federal income taxes paid by North Carolinians will fund expansion in most other states. Instead, we will continue to pay for the health care of the 500,000 uninsured poor with state and county dollars. The state Medicaid agency estimates $250 million over 10 years in state budget savings by expanding Medicaid. When combined with new state revenues projected from the economic boost, Medicaid expansion will produce a net savings for the state’s budget.

• Stop large increases in health insurance premiums. Currently Medicaid does not cover many North Carolinians living in poverty. Most poor adults ages 21 to 65 cannot get Medicaid. Every year N.C. doctors and hospitals provide $3 billion in uncompensated care to the uninsured. These costs are passed on to those with health coverage, increasing the annual premium for an insured family by more than $1,000. By expanding Medicaid, we can dramatically reduce this cost-shifting. Otherwise, our insurance premiums will be higher than in states that opt for expansion, suppressing wages and putting N.C. businesses at a competitive disadvantage.

• Help employers avoid large penalties. Beginning in 2014, large employers must offer health coverage or pay tax penalties if employees receive federal tax credits to purchase insurance through the new federal exchange. However, if North Carolina expands Medicaid, families earning less than 138 percent of the federal poverty line will be eligible for Medicaid. There is no penalty to an employer whose employee receives Medicaid.

• Keep rural hospitals open. Because the ACA expands coverage, the law phases out special funding to hospitals providing indigent care. If North Carolina does not expand Medicaid, hospitals will lose not only the expansion dollars but also payments they currently get. Smaller N.C. hospitals that are struggling can thrive under the ACA with an influx of newly insured patients. However, if Medicaid is not expanded, some rural hospitals may close, reducing health care access in rural communities.

• Create a healthier, more productive workforce. Many of those without health coverage are adults with low-wage jobs. Medicaid coverage will provide check-ups and access to prescription drugs, preventing or managing chronic illness. A workforce with health insurance is healthier and more productive. If we don’t implement the expansion, these uninsured citizens will not qualify for federal tax subsidies to buy private health insurance because the ACA limits those subsidies to families that are not in poverty. Again, businesses in other states will have a competitive advantage.

• Reduce health disparities. Like most states, North Carolina has persistent racial disparities in access to health care and health outcomes. Lack of insurance contributes to poorer health outcomes in communities of color, as measured by mortality rates, infant mortality rates and prevalence of certain preventable diseases such as heart disease, diabetes, stroke and HIV/AIDS. Medicaid expansion holds tremendous potential to reduce long-standing racial health care disparities by extending coverage to traditionally underserved communities throughout North Carolina.

• Save lives. A recent study published by the New England Journal of Medicine finds that a Medicaid expansion of 500,000 enrollees will result in 2,840 fewer preventable deaths per year. We can literally save our neighbors’ lives if we expand Medicaid.

With so much at stake for North Carolina, Medicaid expansion should not be a partisan issue. To protect North Carolinians’ health, economy and pocketbooks, all of us need to make our voices heard now so our governor and legislators do the smart thing for North Carolina.

Douglas Sea and Madison Hardee are attorneys with Legal Services of Southern Piedmont in Charlotte.

Read more here: http://www.newsobserver.com/2013/01/19/2616471/medicaid-expansion-a-no-brainer.html#storylink=cpy
 
http://projects.newsobserver.com/under_the_dome/senate_leader_spreading_mistruths_about_obamacare

"Senate leader Phil Berger is circulating an online petition to "Stop Obamacare in North Carolina."
The Eden Republican says the state Senate has already passed a bill and now it's "up to the House and Governor to protect us from:
- The government turning over our health records to the IRS
- Government-forced insurance
- Billions in new taxes on businesses and the people of North Carolina."
 
Medicaid expansion a no-brainer

PUBLISHED SAT, JAN 19, 2013 08:00 P
BY DOUGLAS SEA AND MADISON HARDEE

In the next few months, Gov. Pat McCrory and the General Assembly will decide whether to expand Medicaid to cover about 500,000 low-income North Carolina residents who are uninsured.

The U.S. Supreme Court’s decision in National Federation of Independent Business v. Sebelius in 2012 upheld the Affordable Care Act but held that the Medicaid expansion provisions in the ACA, which take effect Jan. 1, 2014, are a state option. The choice is clear: Medicaid expansion is a great deal for North Carolina and will benefit not just the poor, but every state resident and business.

Permitting the Medicaid expansion to go forward will:


• Stimulate North Carolina’s economy. Like a hundred new businesses, Medicaid expansion will pump billions of new dollars into North Carolina’s economy. The federal government will pick up 100 percent of the cost of expansion for the first three years (2014-2016) and will cover at least 90 percent of the cost thereafter. This means $20 billion in new federal dollars throughout North Carolina over 10 years. The result will be thousands of new jobs and billions in revenue for N.C. businesses.

• Leverage Our Federal Tax Dollars. If N.C. does not expand Medicaid, federal income taxes paid by North Carolinians will fund expansion in most other states. Instead, we will continue to pay for the health care of the 500,000 uninsured poor with state and county dollars. The state Medicaid agency estimates $250 million over 10 years in state budget savings by expanding Medicaid. When combined with new state revenues projected from the economic boost, Medicaid expansion will produce a net savings for the state’s budget.

• Stop large increases in health insurance premiums. Currently Medicaid does not cover many North Carolinians living in poverty. Most poor adults ages 21 to 65 cannot get Medicaid. Every year N.C. doctors and hospitals provide $3 billion in uncompensated care to the uninsured. These costs are passed on to those with health coverage, increasing the annual premium for an insured family by more than $1,000. By expanding Medicaid, we can dramatically reduce this cost-shifting. Otherwise, our insurance premiums will be higher than in states that opt for expansion, suppressing wages and putting N.C. businesses at a competitive disadvantage.

• Help employers avoid large penalties. Beginning in 2014, large employers must offer health coverage or pay tax penalties if employees receive federal tax credits to purchase insurance through the new federal exchange. However, if North Carolina expands Medicaid, families earning less than 138 percent of the federal poverty line will be eligible for Medicaid. There is no penalty to an employer whose employee receives Medicaid.

• Keep rural hospitals open. Because the ACA expands coverage, the law phases out special funding to hospitals providing indigent care. If North Carolina does not expand Medicaid, hospitals will lose not only the expansion dollars but also payments they currently get. Smaller N.C. hospitals that are struggling can thrive under the ACA with an influx of newly insured patients. However, if Medicaid is not expanded, some rural hospitals may close, reducing health care access in rural communities.

• Create a healthier, more productive workforce. Many of those without health coverage are adults with low-wage jobs. Medicaid coverage will provide check-ups and access to prescription drugs, preventing or managing chronic illness. A workforce with health insurance is healthier and more productive. If we don’t implement the expansion, these uninsured citizens will not qualify for federal tax subsidies to buy private health insurance because the ACA limits those subsidies to families that are not in poverty. Again, businesses in other states will have a competitive advantage.

• Reduce health disparities. Like most states, North Carolina has persistent racial disparities in access to health care and health outcomes. Lack of insurance contributes to poorer health outcomes in communities of color, as measured by mortality rates, infant mortality rates and prevalence of certain preventable diseases such as heart disease, diabetes, stroke and HIV/AIDS. Medicaid expansion holds tremendous potential to reduce long-standing racial health care disparities by extending coverage to traditionally underserved communities throughout North Carolina.

• Save lives. A recent study published by the New England Journal of Medicine finds that a Medicaid expansion of 500,000 enrollees will result in 2,840 fewer preventable deaths per year. We can literally save our neighbors’ lives if we expand Medicaid.

With so much at stake for North Carolina, Medicaid expansion should not be a partisan issue. To protect North Carolinians’ health, economy and pocketbooks, all of us need to make our voices heard now so our governor and legislators do the smart thing for North Carolina.

Douglas Sea and Madison Hardee are attorneys with Legal Services of Southern Piedmont in Charlotte.

Read more here: http://www.newsobserver.com/2013/01/19/2616471/medicaid-expansion-a-no-brainer.html#storylink=cpy

That is perhaps the worst justification for a bad government program that I have ever read. Basically, the federal government is about to fuck us in the ass, so let's at least get them to use some vaseline.

My favorite is how increased Medicaid is supposed to decrease racial disparities by covering 500,000 more people. Sure, because Medicaid has had such an amazing impact solving racial disparities amongst the 53 million people that it already covers.
 
2&2 doesn't mind 2800 people dying who don't have to die next year. After all the fact they are poor and sick is their fault. Fuck 'em.
 
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