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Nixon sabotaged Vietnam peace talks in 1968?

The United States, like most nations in the Americas during the 50's and 60's, had our sitting president murdered and our government covertly replaced by secret forces through a Coup. That secret government is still in power today.

The illegal actions done by Nixon such as spying on journalists and the general citizenry is currently being done by the Obama administration. Here is a NSA whistle blower who was charged under the Espionage Act and had his charges dropped because none of the documents he leaked to the press were classified. He mentions that the government is currently spying on the Media and top government officials to find the sources who leak information about government criminality and corruption.
http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/311537-1
 
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What I can't get over is what a wild and crazy guy Nixon was for a US President. He's bombing Cambodia secretly, breaking into conventions, auditing his enemies, has no friends whatsoever, extends the Vietnam war, kills kids at Kent State, is all anti-Semitic, and yet he was able to successfully run for President as the mature guy's choice. It's nuts. Can't imagine what it must have been like to be alive during his Presidency. I think it would be like if Newt had won.
 
To be honest, the biggest mistake Nixon made was instituting wage and price freeze, sounded good at the time but helped usher in the extreme inflation later in the decade. For all his faults you really did not sense any great problems until Watergate becme a scandal. Nixon was not a reactionary like Gingrich is, in fact he would be thrown out of the conservative party as it exists now.
 
bcobbdeacs said:
To be honest, the biggest mistake Nixon made was instituting wage and price freeze, sounded good at the time but helped usher in the extreme inflation later in the decade. For all his faults you really did not sense any great problems until Watergate becme a scandal. Nixon was not a reactionary like Gingrich is, in fact he would be thrown out of the conservative party as it exists now.
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I got one better. How about Nixon promoting the use of High Fructose Corn Syrup as an alternative to sugar? The dude was paranoid that rising food prices would cost him reelection. Now HFCS is in everything -- literally.

That stuff is poison.
 
Nixon would have been a fine president had he won in 1960. His growing paranoia after that election was pretty much stolen from him coupled with the advent of the information age, escalation of Vietnam, and general state of American politics in the mid-to-late 60s was a recipe for the perfect storm of disaster that ensued. Timing is everything in politics. Hillary should have divorced bill in 2000 and run in 2004; Nixon probably should have won in 60 - world would be a much different place if either of those happened.
 
ABCDeac said:
Nixon would have been a fine president had he won in 1960. His growing paranoia after that election was pretty much stolen from him coupled with the advent of the information age, escalation of Vietnam, and general state of American politics in the mid-to-late 60s was a recipe for the perfect storm of disaster that ensued. Timing is everything in politics. Hillary should have divorced bill in 2000 and run in 2004; Nixon probably should have won in 60 - world would be a much different place if either of those happened.
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2004 election was poisoned chalice unless winner was prepared to make bank regulation a central theme of his/her Presidency. Timing might be everything, but that doesn't mean Hillary running in 2004 would have been great for her or the country.
 
Nixon's tinkering in the '68 peace talks is fairly well known at this point. The President's Club has a detailed analysis of those events and how it affected his relationship with LBJ, which to that point had been cordial. Great read.
 
Nixon also ran on having a "secret plan to end the Viet Nam War". It was a big part of how he got elected.
 
TuffaloDeac10 said:
2004 election was poisoned chalice unless winner was prepared to make bank regulation a central theme of his/her Presidency. Timing might be everything, but that doesn't mean Hillary running in 2004 would have been great for her or the country.
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No doubt. Hillary just wants to be first female pres. I think she handles crisis better than bush, likely loses reelection and no one ever hears of Obama. She would have won in 2004 I think. Big game changer.
 
OGBDeacon07 said:
I got one better. How about Nixon promoting the use of High Fructose Corn Syrup as an alternative to sugar? The dude was paranoid that rising food prices would cost him reelection. Now HFCS is in everything -- literally.

That stuff is poison.
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what is wrong with it?
 
RJKarl said:
Nixon also ran on having a "secret plan to end the Viet Nam War". It was a big part of how he got elected.
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Josiah Bartlett had a secret plan to fight inflation...

...or maybe he didn't.
 
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