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Pinstripe Bowl vs Michigan State

thatguy2016 said:
fun fact: no 9-3 team has ever played in the Pinstripe Bowl, although 8-4 Notre Dame and 8-4 Pitt were both ranked when playing there

(Notre Dame beat Rutgers but later had all its wins vacated; Pitt lost to Northwestern)
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Shame with what could've been this season, but it's on our team for sleepwalking through the first quarter of the Louisville game. Oh well, I doubt that I would trek to the Bronx to watch us in the middle of winter anyway, but I can't make that bowl. Still holding out hope we luck into something better.
 
I’m assuming we take care of business against Cuse, but in the event of a loss, is Pinstripe still the most likely?

And it’s too bad that game isn’t closer to New Years given all that there is to do in nyc then.
 
ND at 16 is gonna have a tough time getting to the top 10. VPI comes in at 24, no UVA in the top 25.
 
Some good news in rankings from an ACC in the Citrus Bowl perspective with Penn State staying ahead of Florida. Could really use at least one of the following:
*a Alabama loss to Auburn
*Georgia getting mauled by LSU (sorry Biff)
*two SEC teams making the CFP (yay Biff?)
 
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wsc8521s said:
Some good news in rankings from an ACC in the Citrus Bowl perspective with Penn State staying ahead of Florida. Could really use at least one of the following:
*a Alabama loss to Auburn
*Georgia getting mauled by LSU (sorry Biff)
*two SEC teams making the CFP (yay Biff?)
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Pretty sure Penn State would go to the Rose Bowl instead of Orange Bowl in that scenario. What we really need is for Minnesota to be ahead of Florida OR for two SEC teams to make the CFP (if there is a limit of 3 teams from a conference in NY6 bowls then Florida couldn’t be the 4th SEC team)
 
wsc8521s said:
Some good news in rankings from an ACC in the Citrus Bowl perspective with Penn State staying ahead of Florida. Could really use at least one of the following:
*a Alabama loss to Auburn
*Georgia getting mauled by LSU (sorry Biff)
*two SEC teams making the CFP (yay Biff?)
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It's going to take a lot for Alabama to make the playoff, so two teams making it would require Georgia beating LSU and LSU still getting in. If you're thinking Alabama and/or Georgia could both fall behind Penn State, I realllly don't see that happening.
 
NCAA denied Missouri's one-year bowl ban appeal, so no bowl for the Tigers if they beat Arkansas.
 
BiffTannen said:
NCAA denied Missouri's one-year bowl ban appeal, so no bowl for the Tigers if they beat Arkansas.
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Yep. Avoiding how ridiculous that whole situation is and just focusing on bowl implications, the ACC is at least always able to fill our bowl slots. The SEC wasn’t going to even before this ruling and now won’t even be close (Mizzou hasn’t won 6 yet anyway but probably will against Arkansas this weekend).
 
deacdixieboy said:
Yep. Avoiding how ridiculous that whole situation is and just focusing on bowl implications, the ACC is at least always able to fill our bowl slots. The SEC wasn’t going to even before this ruling and now won’t even be close (Mizzou hasn’t won 6 yet anyway but probably will against Arkansas this weekend).
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given how bad the acc is, doesn’t that just suggest that filling bowl slots is somewhat random and perhaps hard to predict?
 
So, Wake has a gigilo and a LeCock writing about our sports. Hmmmm
 
on a more serious note, Giglio is making two assumptions:

1. the B1G will get a team into the Orange Bowl, opening a spot for the ACC in Citrus. His reasoning here is that Bama will sneak into the CFP as the #4 seed. UGA will go to the Sugar as the SEC rep. That leaves Florida as the next highest SEC team, and Giglio thinks PSU will stay ahead of them in the rankings. This also assumes tOSU wins the B1G and the Rose selects the B1G runner-up (Wiscy or the Gophers). That is reasonable but obviously a lot can happen.
2. He also assumes UNC will not be able to jump a Tier 1 team. This is where I believe his logic falls. If as Giglio suggests, UL gets Citrus/Camping World, the rest of Tier 1 would be WF (8+ wins), UVA (8+ wins), Pitt (8 wins if they beat BC), and...Miami, who will have at most 7 wins and would therefore be "jumpable" by a 6-6 UNC, unless there is some nuance I am unaware of.

He also seems to think the Citrus/Camping World designee would be ahead of Tier 1, so to speak, such that a 7-5 UL could go there ahead of a 9-3 WF; and that a 7-5 UL does not open up Tier 1 for UNC at 6-6 to get in
Edited to add that on Twitter, Giglio clarifies that the two win rule does apply to Citrus/Camping World, so if WF wins and UL loses, UL cannot go to either of those bowls (the loser of VT/UVA or 8-4 Pitt (Pitt won't go) can)
 
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Official SIX WINS AND WE'RE BOWLING BUT WHERE?? Speculation thread

The two win rule for tier one seems odd where nobody has “first pick” so if a 6-6 Unc could jump a 7-5 Miami all that means for the other teams at 8+ wins is that they can’t fall out of tier one - doesn’t mean they can’t still lose out to the 6-6 team for a “better” bowl location right? So Miami could fall out for Unc but Unc would then be positioned to grab any of the tier 1 bowls.

Wonder if Unc having already played in Charlotte this year makes any difference to the belk wanting them.
 
If UVA beats VA Tech and gets blown out in title game, there is a possibility for Wake to beat Syracuse and a number of expected loses Wake could sneak into the rankings.
 
IAppreciateIt said:
given how bad the acc is, doesn’t that just suggest that filling bowl slots is somewhat random and perhaps hard to predict?
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No. Not at all. Who wins what games is hard to predict but it’s not random. And it’s not a “given” that a league with more winning teams is a bad league.
 
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