ImTheCaptain
I disagree with you
some thoughts now that I'm on a computer
The good:
- This movie was exactly what I wanted: a classic WWII commando raid against impossible odds. Super fun; the battles were great, pacing was good.
- They handled Vader really well, i thought. They had a big task to both get fanbois excited and happy and basically re-introduce this character to those watching the films in chronological order in a way that makes sense and keeps him menacing. Moonz is right; that hallway scene might be fan-service but damn it's an awesome scene and just illustrates how bad ass Vader is.
- I think the movie's explanation for the exhaust port plot hole is great.
- I love that they were able to maintain the level of tech seen in the ANH. The details make the movie.
- I liked that Forrest Whittaker's character is like the Rebellion's zealot/Darth Vader, half machine with breathing apparatus. Wish we knew more about him.
- They did a great job of making the Force mystical again. I think it works in-universe, too, because they jedi are "extinct" so the religion would have basically have died out, I guess, but it's nice that we have 'believers' and see "the Force" in action.
- Tailing on that, I guess this movie 'explains' why the storm troopers in the main movies are terrible shots: the Force simply protects those who channel it.
The problems:
- The movie was pretty incoherent for my wife (and by extension non-fans). She's seen all the films but is not really a "fan" and still needs large plot points explained or reminded of. The movie really assumes you know and care about what the hell is going on.
- Rogue One's plan is fucking dumb. Noble, but dumb. Jyn and the gang decide to steal a ship and zip off to Scarif to somehow steal the plans from an Imperial installation with no Rebel support. They just luck into the Calamari admiral taking a whole fleet w/out orders to help them out.
- The script takes what is typically an arrogant but clever Empire and turns them into (literal) cartoons. It makes zero sense for Tarkin to blow up Scarif to somehow prevent the Rebels from getting plans for the death star, especially since he's not aware of some kind of fatal flaw.
- I don't care about any of the main characters because there are too many of them and because this movie was re-shot. I know there's a lot more to Forrest Whittaker's character but wtf, why should we even care if we haven't seen clone wars/read books?
I'd really like to see a director's cut, if there ever is one.
The good:
- This movie was exactly what I wanted: a classic WWII commando raid against impossible odds. Super fun; the battles were great, pacing was good.
- They handled Vader really well, i thought. They had a big task to both get fanbois excited and happy and basically re-introduce this character to those watching the films in chronological order in a way that makes sense and keeps him menacing. Moonz is right; that hallway scene might be fan-service but damn it's an awesome scene and just illustrates how bad ass Vader is.
- I think the movie's explanation for the exhaust port plot hole is great.
- I love that they were able to maintain the level of tech seen in the ANH. The details make the movie.
- I liked that Forrest Whittaker's character is like the Rebellion's zealot/Darth Vader, half machine with breathing apparatus. Wish we knew more about him.
- They did a great job of making the Force mystical again. I think it works in-universe, too, because they jedi are "extinct" so the religion would have basically have died out, I guess, but it's nice that we have 'believers' and see "the Force" in action.
- Tailing on that, I guess this movie 'explains' why the storm troopers in the main movies are terrible shots: the Force simply protects those who channel it.
The problems:
- The movie was pretty incoherent for my wife (and by extension non-fans). She's seen all the films but is not really a "fan" and still needs large plot points explained or reminded of. The movie really assumes you know and care about what the hell is going on.
- Rogue One's plan is fucking dumb. Noble, but dumb. Jyn and the gang decide to steal a ship and zip off to Scarif to somehow steal the plans from an Imperial installation with no Rebel support. They just luck into the Calamari admiral taking a whole fleet w/out orders to help them out.
- The script takes what is typically an arrogant but clever Empire and turns them into (literal) cartoons. It makes zero sense for Tarkin to blow up Scarif to somehow prevent the Rebels from getting plans for the death star, especially since he's not aware of some kind of fatal flaw.
- I don't care about any of the main characters because there are too many of them and because this movie was re-shot. I know there's a lot more to Forrest Whittaker's character but wtf, why should we even care if we haven't seen clone wars/read books?
I'd really like to see a director's cut, if there ever is one.
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