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Chicago teachers are striking

I wonder how many of those college grads DeacMan is talking about have stabbings or fights in their offices every week?
 
A lot more than have gangs with their offices.

A lot more than have stabbings in their offices every week.

A lot more than have fights in their offices every day.
 
2&2 Slider To Leyritz said:
It's double what a private school teacher makes in Chicago.

http://primaryschoolteachersalary.com/IL/Chicago/salary/Private-School-Teacher-Salary
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WakeandBake said:
I have family in Chicago, go up there all the time. It is still a shitty salary. I guess you want teachers who just "get along." I want teachers who make what the finance douchebags make, ya know. Our society rewards the wrong shit. yaay, free market!
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Free market at work. Charter schools and private schools are the way to go!
 
DeaconCav06 said:
Chicago is not like other major cities. It's extremely cheap when compared to places like SFO, LA, DC, NYC, Boston
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I live in DC and I can tell you that you can live here on 75K. You will not live like a king but you can live a fairly middle class life.
 
Looking at the COL calculator 76K in Chicago means you would need to make $98K in DC to maintain quality of life. And those numbers were before benefits.
 
RJKarl said:
A lot more than have gangs with their offices.

A lot more than have stabbings in their offices every week.

A lot more than have fights in their offices every day.
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Some statistics, please.
 
DeaconCav06 said:
Looking at the COL calculator 76K in Chicago means you would need to make $98K in DC to maintain quality of life. And those numbers were before benefits.
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You could live very well on $98K here.
 
RJKarl said:
A lot more than have gangs with their offices.

A lot more than have stabbings in their offices every week.

A lot more than have fights in their offices every day.
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Fascinating. What are the central issues of the strike again? Was "safety" one of them? You'd think if you ran the risk of dying when you went to work you'd put that near the top of the list. That or just quit your job.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/answer-sheet/post/chicago-teachers-strike-the-issues/2012/09/10/8a8173d8-fb69-11e1-b2af-1f7d12fe907a_blog.html
 
DeacMan said:
Fascinating. What are the central issues of the strike again? Was "safety" one of them? You'd think if you ran the risk of dying when you went to work you'd put that near the top of the list. That or just quit your job.
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You mean they're not pushing for school-issued kevlar vests?
 
bobknightfan said:
Republicans would rather spend money on useless wars than on educating children.
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Fascinating, but not especially helpful in this particular case.

Current Chicago city council. If memory serves me correctly the mayor is also not a Republican.

Ward Name First elected Party
1 Proco Joe Moreno 2010* Democratic
2 Robert Fioretti 2007 Democratic
3 Pat Dowell 2007 Democratic
4 Will Burns 2011 Democratic
5 Leslie Hairston 1999 Democratic
6 Roderick Sawyer 2011 Democratic
7 Sandi Jackson 2007 Democratic
8 Michelle A. Harris 2006* Democratic
9 Anthony Beale 1999 Democratic
10 John Pope 1999 Democratic
11 James Balcer 1997* Democratic
12 George Cardenas 2003 Democratic
13 Marty Quinn 2011 Democratic
14 Edward M. Burke 1969 Democratic
15 Toni Foulkes 2007 Democratic
16 Joann Thompson 2007 Democratic
17 Latasha Thomas 2000* Democratic
18 Lona Lane 2006* Democratic
19 Matthew O'Shea 2011 Democratic
20 Willie Cochran 2007 Democratic
21 Howard Brookins Jr. 2003 Democratic
22 Ricardo Muñoz 1993* Democratic
23 Michael Zalewski 1995 Democratic
24 Michael Chandler 2011 Democratic
25 Daniel Solis 1996* Democratic
26 Roberto Maldonado 2009* Democratic
27 Walter Burnett, Jr. 1995 Democratic
28 Jason Ervin 2011* Democratic
29 Deborah L. Graham 2010* Democratic
30 Ariel Reboyras 2003 Democratic
31 Ray Suarez 1991 Democratic
32 Scott Waguespack 2007 Democratic
33 Richard Mell 1975 Democratic
34 Carrie Austin 1994* Democratic
35 Rey Colón 2003 Democratic
36 Nicholas Sposato 2011 Democratic
37 Emma Mitts 2000* Democratic
38 Timothy Cullerton 2011* Democratic
39 Margaret Laurino 1994* Democratic
40 Patrick J. O'Connor 1983 Democratic
41 Mary O'Connor 2011 Democratic
42 Brendan Reilly 2007 Democratic
43 Michele Smith 2011 Democratic
44 Thomas M. Tunney 2002* Democratic
45 John Arena 2011 Democratic
46 James Cappleman 2011 Democratic
47 Ameya Pawar 2011 Democratic
48 Harry Osterman 2011 Democratic
49 Joe Moore 1991 Democratic
50 Debra Silverstein 2011 Democratic

* Year of appointment, not first election
 
you guys do realize the gdp per capita in the us is 48k right?

a new college graduate making that as a teacher sounds pretty good to me.
 
RChildress107 said:
No one is bitching about teachers making 76k, just saying that it's hard to call that underpaid. It's a pretty competitive salary and should be enough to attract high quality teachers. However they are not getting results. Either they don't have high quality teachers (which means they shouldn't be paying them 76k a year) or they do have good teachers who aren't getting good results (which means hey shouldn't be paying 76k a year).

Also comparing teaching wages to investment bankers is the definition of an apple to oranges comparison.
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Well teachers don't start at 72k.....you work up to that over time. First year salary for a teacher in San Diego is ~46k. So you go through four years of college, then 1-1.5 more years in a credential program to start at 46k in San Diego. That's not that great for the amount of education invested.
 
Dented said:
you guys do realize the gdp per capita in the us is 48k right?

a new college graduate making that as a teacher sounds pretty good to me.
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That's an average not starting salary right?

From what I've heard, teachers want to get paid more to work longer school days and longer school years. Is this incorrect? If not, why is it unreasonable?
 
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