So.... no point, then?
I didn’t see anything wrong with Wrangor’s post. I check this thread to hear how they’re doing. Apparently, it is not going well. Leaving early looks like a bad idea.
Agreed. Everyone is self righteously hating on Wrangor for posting opinions that are adequately valid.
If Doral and Crawford were true competitors with a lot pride then they would’ve come back and made a run, improved their draft stock and graduated with a WF degree. Instead they made a poor decision....Even though they knew they had no chance of being drafted.
Having said that, I wish them the best. They seem like good people, despite my opinion of them as basketball players.
Just updating the thread for last nights games. Another consistent effort from our two early entrants:
Moore: 2:06 minutes / 1 rebound
Crawford: 8:53 minutes / 2 points (1-4 shooting)
I am sure both have six figure contracts overseas heading their way after this grand showing in summer league.
Probably because Wrangor self-righteously hates on us for posting our valid opinions that Moore and Crawford were leaving.
Somehow missed this article in the Journal. Was looking today to see if BC or Moore had signed with anyone overseas. Couldn't find any news on them, but ran across this. Looks pretty clear that Manning and the staff advised them stick, but the players felt otherwise (as opposed to the coaching staff giving their blessing). Not that we didn't already know it, but Manning is pretty explicit in the article that he advised the players that they were making a big mistake. You rarely see a coach being quite so forward with that information. Not saying that is good or bad, just somewhat rare.
https://nsjonline.com/article/2018/06/manning-not-surprised-wake-players-went-undrafted/
They both could have asked Rj for his valued professional opinion about their chances at professional basketball.
They both could have asked Rj for his valued professional opinion about their chances at professional basketball.
FWIW, there have been a lot of former Deacs on campus working with Ryan Horn and the current team. Doesn’t seem like Manning is fostering some sort of toxic situation.
Dinos, for example, has been back on campus for a while. I hardly think Manning ran him off or Dinos felt like he needed to escape.
Different situations for him vs. Crawford & Moore.
There were lots of people, including PhDeac, who argued things like, you couldn't say it was a bad decision because getting paid seemed like a better plan than playing for Manning/in a bad system/on a bad team.
It was a horrible decision. Even assuming for the sake of argument they disliked Manning, they still made a bad decision for their own career and life. That's objective. The article on the Wake TBT team had quotes from a bunch of former players returning to campus and working out in the facilities saying they didn't know how good they had it because playing internationally, you don't have facilities like this. Going pro early for the NBA makes sense because of the millions involved. Going pro early for the chance of maybe making $100k in Turkey, ehhhhh.
This part is reading the tea leaves, I'm pretty sure Doral liked Manning but thought he could go early. I have a feeling the staff had soured on Crawford and vice-versa. And I get the sense that Crawford wasn't putting the work in that was requested of him (and of all players).
If Doral and Crawford were true competitors with a lot pride then they would’ve come back and made a run, improved their draft stock and graduated with a WF degree. Instead they made a poor decision....Even though they knew they had no chance of being drafted.
Having said that, I wish them the best. They seem like good people, despite my opinion of them as basketball players.
Why even play college ball at all if you're not going to get drafted
Why even play college ball at all if you're not going to get drafted