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    Yes, when you say something stupid (which is a daily occurance) and get called on it, deflection is your best option.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL68 View Post
    Yes, when you say something stupid (which is a daily occurance) and get called on it, deflection is your best option.
    When Junebug and Colonel Angus are the only posters agreeing with you, then it’s clear that I’m the one saying something stupid.
    We're going to be good again.

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    It boggles my mind that you are in higher education with the reading comprehension you have demonstrated on this thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL68 View Post
    It boggles my mind that you are in higher education with the reading comprehension you have demonstrated on this thread.
    LOL. Strick should start posting in dollars so CL can understand it.

    This is one of the dumbest discussions we’ve had on this thread.

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    Is arguing and kvetching onthe internet allowed on Yom Kippur ? Because it seems like it was discouraged on Rosh Hashana.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Liquid Karma View Post
    Show where either Chris or I equated Warren to Trump? I'll hang up and wait.
    Long time listener, first time caller. Show me where in that post I said you equated them? I'll stay on the line for follow up.

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    2020 Democratic Presidential Nominees

    I agree with Birdman that everything is relative. If you say Warren has a credibility issue, she has an issue relative to what or whom? Are we simply evaluating various characteristics of all candidates in a vacuum and then comparing in a chart to see who our favorites are or are we evaluating candidates directly with each other throughout?

    Donald thinks that windmills cause cancer and said earlier this week the American military ran out of ammo. This doesn’t mean that other candidates have carte blanche to obfuscate or lie, but it does put into context what is actually important - particularly where many in the media and the (self-identified) middle love to “both sides” in efforts to appear objective.

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    nah, nothing matters except Democrats have to be perfect all the time. Except Joe Biden - or something

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    Also Bernie shouldn’t scale back he should step aside and endorse Warren.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wakeforest22890 View Post
    Also Bernie shouldn’t scale back he should step aside and endorse Warren.
    I unabashedly love Bernie, but I think I agree with this take. If his health is remotely a concern, take the rest of the campaign off and go be a senator again. We need all the help we can get in the Senate in 2020.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TownieDeac View Post
    I unabashedly love Bernie, but I think I agree with this take. If his health is remotely a concern, take the rest of the campaign off and go be a senator again. We need all the help we can get in the Senate in 2020.
    Yeah I like Bernie a lot as well but if he’s scaling back he can’t win. He will lose ground and his health will always be a topic. Continue your movement through supporting another progressive candidate who shares many of your views. Warren is on the upswing and broadening the coalition is only going to help her secure the nomination and beat Donald.

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    To be fair, they mean not doing 4 rallies a day, and scaling back to the schedule the rest of the other candidates are on, but I just want my dude to get healthy. The campaign trail cannot be a good place to do that. Build a bench and go downballot for all these awesome progressive challengers to dumb ChrisL/cville dbag candidates.

    I feel like it bears repeating that Donald got fewer votes than Mitt Romney. He didn't win because his ideas were popular or he was a great candidate, he won because Hillary was a horrible candidate. Let's not repeat those mistakes in 2020. Warren seems to be threading the needle well with progressive ideas, still getting big money donors, used to be a Republican and doesn't talk down to working class people, generally respected by labor. It'll be much easier for her to close any enthusiasm gap than Hillary. I think she can get more white women voters than Hillary if she adopts more of Gillibrand's family policies. I don't think she can get an appreciable amount more of the white dude vote, except for maybe some nonvoters. Getting Trump defectors is not a task worth pursuing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TownieDeac View Post
    To be fair, they mean not doing 4 rallies a day, and scaling back to the schedule the rest of the other candidates are on, but I just want my dude to get healthy. The campaign trail cannot be a good place to do that. Build a bench and go downballot for all these awesome progressive challengers to dumb ChrisL/cville dbag candidates.

    I feel like it bears repeating that Donald got fewer votes than Mitt Romney. He didn't win because his ideas were popular or he was a great candidate, he won because Hillary was a horrible candidate. Let's not repeat those mistakes in 2020. Warren seems to be threading the needle well with progressive ideas, still getting big money donors, used to be a Republican and doesn't talk down to working class people, generally respected by labor. It'll be much easier for her to close any enthusiasm gap than Hillary. I think she can get more white women voters than Hillary if she adopts more of Gillibrand's family policies. I don't think she can get an appreciable amount more of the white dude vote, except for maybe some nonvoters. Getting Trump defectors is not a task worth pursuing.
    I'm really hoping that the bold happens.
    We're going to be good again.

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    2020 Democratic Presidential Nominees

    It’s ridiculously early but based on the RCP average, Clinton never had as big a lead over Donald in polling as either Warren, Biden, or Bernie currently do. Obviously electoral college changes the analysis but you’re not going to sniff the victory on any front if you only get 40 percent of the vote and lose by 10+ points overall.

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    Now is the time when cville starts listing states

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wakeforest22890 View Post
    It’s ridiculously early but based on the RCP average, Clinton never had as big a lead over Donald in polling as either Warren, Biden, or Bernie currently do. Obviously electoral college changes the analysis but you’re not going to sniff the victory on any front if you only get 40 percent of the vote and lose by 10+ points overall.
    What about if you only get %40 of the vote but stamp your feet, say the election is rigged, lock yourself in the oval office, and threaten to nuke Turkey if they make you leave?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TownieDeac View Post
    Now is the time when cville starts typing the word "Virginia"
    We're going to be good again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Demonwolverine View Post
    What about if you only get %40 of the vote but stamp your feet, say the election is rigged, lock yourself in the oval office, and threaten to nuke Turkey if they make you leave?
    Trump wouldn't do that. He has a hotel in Turkey.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Strickland33 View Post
    I'm really hoping that the bold happens.
    I've found that white women under 45 have quite a bit of antipathy toward Hillary.

    Hillary could have helped herself by not doing what Dole, Gore, Kerry (to an extent), McCain, and Romney did and lose all sense of personality in order to be presidential.

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    2020 Democratic Presidential Nominees

    Haven’t had time to read through, but what’s the thought on Hillary entering the race again? Looking like that’s gonna happen.
    Last edited by DG3; 10-09-2019 at 01:00 PM.

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