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PSU doc CAUGHT trying to #cancelsports #letthemplay

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How many of those who don't have Covid show the inflammation?
 
For this to have meaning, the next step has to be a study that establishes that playing the sport at issue makes it more likely to get infected. While it's completely anecdotal, it seems like the percentage of athletes infected is highest when the athletes report (when they are not playing the sport), and then drops after practices start; there have been no games yet; so, we will see if infection rates rise when games are played.

Also, 10% rate from the flu is consequential. Does playing sports make it more likely to get the flu? If so, maybe, sports shouldn't be played at all during the flu season.
 
Pilchard said:
For this to have meaning, the next step has to be a study that establishes that playing the sport at issue makes it more likely to get infected. While it's completely anecdotal, it seems like the percentage of athletes infected is highest when the athletes report (when they are not playing the sport), and then drops after practices start; there have been no games yet; so, we will see if infection rates rise when games are played.

Also, 10% rate from the flu is consequential. Does playing sports make it more likely to get the flu? If so, maybe, sports shouldn't be played at all during the flu season.
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Not sure i agree with first statement. If playing and not playing have same infection rate, and if 30% of infection get the inflammation, then we'd have to determine if playing sports with that inflammation is more dangerous than not playing sports.
 
DistrictDeacon said:
How many of those who don't have Covid show the inflammation?
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Per oxfordmedicine.com: "Acute and subacute myocarditis and perimyocarditis are the cause of sudden cardiac death in 5–25% of athletes ... the disease is not uncommon and accounts for up to 10% of autopsies in the general population."
 
Anecdotes seem to be leaking out at a frustrating pace

Perhaps the schools who answered the following survey did not feel that myocarditis falls into the definition of "heart-related issues due to the coronavirus"

Maybe they answered the survey (just published by ESPN) before discussing with PSU's doctor

Or, it's possible that the 30% - 35% were from other B1G schools (that would be quite the statistical anomaly)

ESPN story regarding Covid-19 reporting: Four B1G schools answer survey completely, say zero athletes had heart-related issues due to coronavirus

Among the questions ESPN asked school administrators were how many tests have been administered since the school started testing athletes; how many athletes have tested positive; what protocols the department has in place once an athlete tests positive; how many athletes have heart-related issues due to the coronavirus; and whether the school shares data with government health officials.
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Among the 10 schools that completely answered all of ESPN's questions, four still plan to play fall sports -- Clemson, Iowa State, Missouri and Oklahoma. The six other schools that fully responded are in the Big Ten (Iowa, Michigan, Michigan State and Wisconsin) and the Pac-12 (Oregon State and Stanford), which postponed fall sports.
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Of the 26 schools that answered the question about heart-related conditions for student-athletes, only one school -- Oregon State -- reported having an athlete who developed heart-related issues after contracting COVID-19, but the school stated it was not myocarditis, an inflammation of the heart muscle. Myocarditis has been a growing concern among cardiologists and other medical providers and has fueled unease among some Power 5 administrators about the viability of fall sports.
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Instead of sports reporters putting on their amateur science reporter hat, it'd be nice to just get the data from the doctor and let actual science reporters analyze it and see if it's a legit number or not.
 
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Fake news apparently.
 
Pilchard said:
For this to have meaning, the next step has to be a study that establishes that playing the sport at issue makes it more likely to get infected. While it's completely anecdotal, it seems like the percentage of athletes infected is highest when the athletes report (when they are not playing the sport), and then drops after practices start; there have been no games yet; so, we will see if infection rates rise when games are played.

Also, 10% rate from the flu is consequential. Does playing sports make it more likely to get the flu? If so, maybe, sports shouldn't be played at all during the flu season.
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For this to have meaning the heart inflammation would have to be higher for athletes than for non-athletes, regardless of where and when they got COVID. It is also a matter of risk tolerance. Right now we have some suggestions that athletes may be at elevated risk of cardiac complications. How much are we willing to risk their lives and health for our entertainment? For me, I’d err on the side of caution and keep my kid off the field until we had more certainty.
 
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