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JuiceCrewAllStar said:
I'm not here to comment on the sexualization of children, but I do want to point out that rap videos made by men since the 90s have been overloaded with sexuality and soft-(or not so soft-)core porn, male gratification, sexual violence, and so on, but once two women rappers do it in the name of empowerment it becomes a Big Fucking Deal and we're Worried About Our Daughters
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False comparison, friendo. Also, misinformed, because WAP was produced by Ayo the Producer (male), and directed by Collin Tilley (male).

I have no problems with the 90s rap videos on the front that they didn't directly inspire children to make softcore porn videos. That's likely only because the technology available at the time didn't provide ready access. If children were making softcore porn videos in response to "rap videos made by men," then I'd be equally against that.

I've watched and listened to the WAP video. It's reasonable. But there's got to be a different standard when it comes to the potential to sexualize children.

I'm not smart enough to figure out what the solution is, be it restricting the use of things like Tik Tok; or some other awesome idea that I don't know about.
 
JuiceCrewAllStar said:
I'm not here to comment on the sexualization of children, but I do want to point out that rap videos made by men since the 90s have been overloaded with sexuality and soft-(or not so soft-)core porn, male gratification, sexual violence, and so on, but once two women rappers do it in the name of empowerment it becomes a Big Fucking Deal and we're Worried About Our Daughters
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this. i have two young daughters. get over it, dudes

old men love yelling at clouds
 
i've never heard the concept of "sexualize children" to mean "expose them to the concepts of sex"
 
Y'all completely worried about the wrong shit, bros. I have two daughters and I'm just praying that one or both are gay, because I assume then you decide who pays for the wedding with a coin flip or something, and I've got a 50/50 shot at avoiding bankruptcy.
 
what's the correlation of people Concerned about WAP and those who are all in on the Q Save the Children stuff rn?
 
mako1331 said:
Y'all completely worried about the wrong shit, bros. I have two daughters and I'm just praying that one or both are gay, because I assume then you decide who pays for the wedding with a coin flip or something, and I've got a 50/50 shot at avoiding bankruptcy.
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Same. Since mine was in the womb I have been praying that she's gay. Dudes are fucked up, man.
 
ImTheCaptain said:
i've never heard the concept of "sexualize children" to mean "expose them to the concepts of sex"
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Neither have I.



This is what we get. 11 years old, bro. 11.

Juice, there's no way you've had to interact with pedophiles as much as I have. Normalizing these actions or images exposes children to enormous risk when it comes to phedophilic grooming.
 
Donkey Deac Doug said:
False comparison, friendo. Also, misinformed, because WAP was produced by Ayo the Producer (male), and directed by Collin Tilley (male).

I have no problems with the 90s rap videos on the front that they didn't directly inspire children to make softcore porn videos. That's likely only because the technology available at the time didn't provide ready access. If children were making softcore porn videos in response to "rap videos made by men," then I'd be equally against that.

I've watched and listened to the WAP video. It's reasonable. But there's got to be a different standard when it comes to the potential to sexualize children.

I'm not smart enough to figure out what the solution is, be it restricting the use of things like Tik Tok; or some other awesome idea that I don't know about.
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your issue seems to be with TikTok and other platforms, not with WAP itself
 
BarcaDeac said:
what's the correlation of people Concerned about WAP and those who are all in on the Q Save the Children stuff rn?
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I have zero problem with WAP. I have 100% problem with children reenacting highly sexualized content and/or sharing that reenactment on the internet.
 
JuiceCrewAllStar said:
your issue seems to be with TikTok and other platforms, not with WAP itself
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My issue is with every song and video in the history of pop culture that discusses degrading women. WAP is just mega popular right now, so I brought it up. I don't give a damn if the content is written or produced by men or women. It all plays a role in promoting sexual abuse and desensitizing women to sexual misconduct by men. If you disagree with that then you have a totally different perspective on it all than I do, and that's fine.
 
CreamyGoodness said:
My issue is with every song and video in the history of pop culture that discusses degrading women. WAP is just mega popular right now, so I brought it up. I don't give a damn if the content is written or produced by men or women. It all plays a role in promoting sexual abuse and desensitizing women to sexual misconduct by men. If you disagree with that then you have a totally different perspective on it all than I do, and that's fine.
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what is it about WAP that is degrading? or promoting sexual misconduct by men?

posts about degrading women ring hollow on a board with a "hottest women in politics" thread with nary a protest post
 
JuiceCrewAllStar said:
what is it about WAP that is degrading? or promoting sexual misconduct by men?

posts about degrading women ring hollow on a board with a "hottest women in politics" thread with nary a protest post
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I haven't posted on that thread.

WAP, specifically, might not promote sexual misconduct as much as other songs, but the lyrics are disgusting, in my opinion.

I mean, bro, I self deprecated in my initial posts about it saying "maybe I'm just old", etc... I know I'm probably in the minority with my opinion here. I'm the guy that rides around listening to classical music, oldies and bluegrass...Even as a kid, I never liked music that talked about fucking women...It's just not my thing and I stand by my opinion that it desensitizes young girls by making them think the lyrics in those songs are real life. It should not be real life.
 
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