WakeForestRanger
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Do any of you actually have a problem with Justice Gorsuch?
Yes.
Do any of you actually have a problem with Justice Gorsuch?
Even if the Dems take the Senate, will Manchin and Sinema allow us to make a counter move? To expand statehood or pack the court?
I said this four years ago and I'll say it again. I don't think we can just assume a GOP Senate would approve a Dem nomination regardless of the timing.
I don't believe you.
Even if the Dems take the Senate, will Manchin and Sinema allow us to make a counter move? To expand statehood or pack the court?
Forget Manchin and Sinema, we can't even get Dianne Feinstein onboard to get rid of the filibuster.
One of the disadvantages of having your party led by a gerontocracy is that many of these people are from another era. They're not willing to fight because they can't (or won't) see that the ground rules have changed. Some, like Sanders or Warren may see it, but a good many others won't.
After some thought on this over the weekend, i have pretty much concluded that the whole argument about whether it is hypocritical or not is beside the point. All politicians are hypocrites, of greater or larger degree. The bottom line is that in some alternative universe where Dems got the Senate in 2018 and impeached Trump and Pence and Pelosi was the president running for reelection against Don Jr. right now, Dems would absolutely no question be ramming through RBG's liberal replacement. The SCOTUS and appeals courts as currently structured are a to the victor go the spoils political tool. Pubs have understood this for a generation; some Dems may have understood it but wanted to pretend not to. The GOP is going to be completely ruthless in filling these seats whenever they can and if Dems want the courts to uphold their legislative priorities, they better learn to play the game better.
If we as a nation want the court to truly be a lofty nonpartisan neutral arbiter (which, given human nature, is probably an impossible goal), the whole system of how we get SCOTUS justices has got to be scrapped and re-done.
Sure so win the senate and the presidency and do whatever you want. Then tell the GOP to STFU because they elected Donald and bowed to him as emperor for the last four years.
One of the disadvantages of having your party led by a gerontocracy is that many of these people are from another era. They're not willing to fight because they can't (or won't) see that the ground rules have changed. Some, like Sanders or Warren may see it, but a good many others won't.
And if that happens, surely center and Pop and others will blame the GOP for putting themselves in this situation.
So many trump voters pretend they are being "forced" to vote trump because... ??... oh yeah... dems are bad!
If Biden wins and dems get the senate, then Breyer needs to retire on Jan 21st.