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Breaking Bad - Final Season - SEASON 5 (Part II) Premieres Aug. 11

For me the argument of the finale being 'too neat' is nullified by viewing the climatic ending as Ozymandias and the denoument as Granite State/Felina. The last 15 minutes of To'hajiilee (starting with the prank picture of the barrel) to the end of Ozymandias was some of the best TV I've ever watched.
 
DeaconCav06 said:
Once they moved the lab from the desert to Fort Nazi, it was no longer underground.
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They moved the lab from Granite State to Felina? Granite State was definitely underground (Jesse using the bucket to climb out of the gate). I guess I missed that detail, but it makes sense with the final two episodes covering a lot of time.
 
freakadeac said:
They moved the lab from Granite State to Felina? Granite State was definitely underground (Jesse using the bucket to climb out of the gate). I guess I missed that detail, but it makes sense with the final two episodes covering a lot of time.
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His little prison was underground, but the lab was above ground.
 
TownieDeac said:
What do we make of the weird Jesse woodworking scene? Is that a flash forward to a happier time for Jesse? #carpentrybitch
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in addition to tying back to his rehab story, i pictured it like a "life of pi" situation where he imagined himself woodworking these boxes rather than being shackled to a meth lab.
 
TownieDeac said:
What do we make of the weird Jesse woodworking scene? Is that a flash forward to a happier time for Jesse? #carpentrybitch
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It was him day dreaming. If you notice when his apron got caught on the bench in the wood working scene, it cut back to him in the meth lab with him on the dog chain.
 
buckets said:
in addition to tying back to his rehab story, i pictured it like a "life of pi" situation where he imagined himself woodworking these boxes rather than being shackled to a meth lab.
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That's how I viewed it.
 
TownieDeac said:
What do we make of the weird Jesse woodworking scene? Is that a flash forward to a happier time for Jesse? #carpentrybitch
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When he was in rehab back in season 3 (?) he told a story about how he made this box in woodshop that he was really proud of. He then sold it for an ounce of weed. I think it's a tie in to that
 
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What do we make of the Gus parallels this season? I feel like Walt absorbed bits and pieces of his enemies along the way (cutting the crust off sandwiches a la Crazy 8) and ultimately Walt absorbed Gus' greed. In the final scene with Jack you would think this greed would overcome and Walt would ask Jack where the remaining $70mil is located. Instead, Walt absorbs Jack's loyalty to family - even if it is loyalty to a corrupt neo Nazi family - and this is clear with Walt's actions to protect his family (offering Jack his $$$ to let Hank live, making call to acquit Skyler of crimes, giving $$$ to Walt Jr, giving Skyler bargaining chip w/ lotto ticket) in the final three episodes.

Not to throw away the final Walt/Skyler scene...Walt definitely acted out of self-interest throughout the series, but he acted out of loyalty to family in the final three episodes.
 
Jesse getting away was nice and all... Part of me kinda wishes that when Walt had seen Jesse in chains he'd apologized and hugged him or something before pushing the button killing everyone, including him and Jesse. Wasn't very tragedy-like to have Jesse survive.

Overall an awesome wrap-up, loved the money angle and the laser pointers and the Stevia poisoning. Just a little odd that Jesse murdered Gale and was responsible for the deaths of other innocents and ended up getting away. Guess they thought the torture was enough...
 
The camera work was great at the end; it looked like Jesse was going to run over Walt once backing out, and again flooring it through the gate.
 
I had a million thoughts racing during the really slow developing parts, the long takes that showed emotion etc., and I was thinking just now that it's intentional, to mirror all the stuff going through Walt's head and to let all of the small implications set in while they're happening. The art direction of the whole show is just absolutely top notch. When Walt is watching Jr walk in to the house, and then he turns and walks away and his silhouette is obscured against the glass and everything slows down, and they're obviously spelling out for you this is the last time he will see anyone in his family... just remarkably powerful stuff.

Walt is no hero, he doesn't ultimately deserved to be rooted for in hardly any capacity, and the way Jesse doesn't allow him to go out on his own terms right away is a great show of that. But the series shows top to bottom that even the most despicable characters are people too, with complex motivations, fears, and emotions.

I don't need to have a conversation just yet about where the show ranks in all time television, but it's an example of a series that continued to set the bar higher and higher for itself, and never failed to meet its own expectations anf conditions, and for that it has to be celebrated.
 
The scene where Walt sees his family for the last time, particularly watching Flynn through broken windows, was brutally sad and amazingly shot. Just silence, and then Walt turns and fades away.

The last nod that Walt gives Jesse and Jesse's acknowledgment of it was also very powerful. So many layers to that final interaction.

Did any else think that Aaron Paul's upcoming Need For Speed movie looks incredibly lame?
 
TownieDeac said:
So ends the greatest television show that ever was.
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TownieDeac said:
I don't need to have a conversation just yet about where the show ranks in all time television, but it's an example of a series that continued to set the bar higher and higher for itself, and never failed to meet its own expectations anf conditions, and for that it has to be celebrated.
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Get a little caught up in the moment last night?
 
Semi-Tough Deac said:
The scene where Walt sees his family for the last time, particularly watching Flynn through broken windows, was brutally sad and amazingly shot. Just silence, and then Walt turns and fades away.

The last nod that Walt gives Jesse and Jesse's acknowledgment of it was also very powerful. So many layers to that final interaction.

Did any else think that Aaron Paul's upcoming Need For Speed movie looks incredibly lame?
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I just watched the trailer now. What an odd choice of a video game to make a movie adaptation of. Most of these movies are based on a game that has familiar characters or storyline. NFS is simply, drive a car around a track, earn some rewards to get a faster car to go around another track. Maybe the series changed over the years, truth be told the last time I played it was for the PS1.
 
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