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Official Hoops Coaching Search Thread - Welcome Danny Manning!!!

Deac94 said:
Does anyone else think that it is bizarre (or perhaps ironic) that we are pursuing a head coaching candidate that is simultaneously negotiating with his current school for a relaxing of academic standards for incoming recruits? Maybe this also says something about why other candidates may be turning us down.

From the Tulsa newspaper:

"Believed to have been among additional Manning-TU discussion topics were salary increases for assistant coaches and academic reform.


The academic issue centers on recruiting and sustaining eligibility. If Manning and Hurricane football coach Bill Blankenship are expected to compete for championships in the American Athletic Conference, there is a question whether TU — without compromising its status as an elite academic institution —— would be willing to make adjustments in standards for football and basketball.


The result could be a deeper pool of athletes from which Manning and Blankenship could recruit, thereby placing Hurricane teams in a position to compete with better numbers of difference-making athletes."
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This is the way it always works until a deal is done.
 
daaberry said:
Technology has allowed the fans to scoop the hire before any of the "insiders" like Goodman, Borzello, or Parrish.
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Yeah they also wait for the almost official word aka when the press announcement goes out.

Been hearing for a couple days that it was Manning's job to lose. Tough to verify stuff obviously.
 
ABCDeac said:
Where does Manning rank? Even a reasonable best case scenario? Somewhere around Larranaga/Hamilton?

K
Pitino
Roy
Boeheim
Buzz Williams
Tony Bennett
Dixon

Gottfried
Brey
Larranaga
Hamilton

Brownell
Gregory
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In the bottom tier category with Gregory. I'd move Brownell to the middle tier. Great fucking job, Ron. Another bottom tier coach.
 
This is ridiculous but I expected nothing less from Chairman Premier. I want to punch him in the face.
 
woody9186 said:
In the bottom tier category with Gregory. I'd move Brownell to the middle tier. Great fucking job, Ron. Another bottom tier coach.
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It's hard to know where he really is though since he only has two years under his belt.

As of right now the tiers IMO are:

K
Boeheim
Pitino
Roy

Bennett
Dixon
Williams

Larranaga
Brey
Hamilton
Gottfried

Brownell
Gregory
Manning




Insert BC Coach Here, who will almost assuredly suck
 
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woody9186 said:
In the bottom tier category with Gregory. I'd move Brownell to the middle tier. Great fucking job, Ron. Another bottom tier coach.
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He hasn't coached a single game in the ACC for us yet, it's not really fair to rank him at this point..
 
Wakeforest22890 said:
It's hard to know where he really is though since he only has two years under his belt.

As of right now the tiers IMO are:

K
Boeheim
Pitino
Roy

Bennett
Dixon
Williams

Larranaga
Brey
Hamilton
Gottfried

Brownell
Gregory
Manning




Insert BC Coach Here, who will almost assuredly suck
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Dixon/Bennett and Brey/Hamilton could probably be swapped.
 
cookoutdeac said:
He hasn't coached a single game in the ACC for us yet, it's not really fair to rank him at this point..
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It's also not fair to rank him in the middle tier with guys who have won ACC championships and Coach of the Year awards, as some suggested. Bottom tier as of now.
 
Something some people need to grapple with is that $ doesn't always get you exactly what you want.

Dan Pink's "What Motivates Us" states that $ incentives actually decreases performance. Purpose, Autonomy, & Mastery are what drive people according to research. If Smart has those satisfied at VCU and he is already paid well, I don't blame him for not jumping ship. I actually admire him for it.

The other thing we need to grapple with is that Wake is a prestigious university and we're not going to tolerate a certain sense of standards just to win. That's what makes Wake different.

Smart seemed like a good fit. Howland & Marshall & Buzz did not.

Can all three coach? Absolutely, but that doesn't mean they're a great match.
 
Liquid Karma said:
My take from what I've heard in the last 24 hours:

Smart - There is no way we could have thrown more at him. We had pretty much any famous alum we could think of call him. We pandered to his wife. None of it worked. In the end, they didn't want to be here.

We contacted (in no particular order) and got rejected by: Marshall, Miller, Howland, Amaker. I'm honestly not sure how much of that info to believe, because I think Wellman wants to leak an impressive list so we all know he tried.

This search feels like 2010 all over again. We got told no by every big name we approached and eventually had to settle. Ron Wellman has now had 2 major hoops searches in 4 years and has struck out on pretty much every single name he's gone after. At a certain point we need to accept that our program isn't as attractive as we all think, and I believe the prospect of working for Ron Wellman is a major part of it.

The billboard money better be spent welcoming Manning. We all know Wellman shit the bed and needs to go, but it's time to turn the corner after the last 4 years. [Redacted] was an obviously flawed hire from day 1 and never deserved a shot IMO. I feel the opposite about Manning. He deserves a shot. It's not the best hire, but at least this time I don't feel confident we will be a miserable failure the way I did with [Redacted].
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Good post, LK.

Not questioning your sources but I find it hard to believe we were turned down by Miller, Howland, and Amaker.
 
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