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Boston Marathon Bombing - Sgt McCarthy > PhDeac

deacvision7 said:
Oh nice. You think that the government is a good thing only when it is killing its citizens. Nice.
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Opposition to the death penalty is the ultimate millennial hypocrisy. If only we could cram this guy back into the womb, then you'd be all good with the death penalty, right? Just coat-hanger his ass and be done with it, and we'd have some hipster mom-of-the-year awards going around.
 
2&2 Slider To Leyritz said:
Opposition to the death penalty is the ultimate millennial hypocrisy. If only we could cram this guy back into the womb, then you'd be all good with the death penalty, right? Just coat-hanger his ass and be done with it, and we'd have some hipster mom-of-the-year awards going around.
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I do believe a coat-hanger is the preferred millennial method of abortion. You do also recognize the hypocrisy of supporting the death penalty while opposing abortion because a life is sacred, right?
 
Ball State Deac said:
I do believe a coat-hanger is the preferred millennial method of abortion. You do also recognize the hypocrisy of supporting the death penalty while opposing abortion because a life is sacred, right?
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I believe that's called the ultimate boomer hypocrisy.
 
Ball State Deac said:
I do believe a coat-hanger is the preferred millennial method of abortion. You do also recognize the hypocrisy of supporting the death penalty while opposing abortion because a life is sacred, right?
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Deadbolt said:
I believe that's called the ultimate boomer hypocrisy.
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I mean, I can see the difference between killing an unborn baby and killing someone who has murdered one or more other people. But maybe that is just me; if you think that is hypocrisy, then keep telling yourself that to try to justify it in your own mind.

Though personally, I think it should be consistent. Either abortion should be legal and we should have the ability/authority to use the death penalty much more frequently than we do; or both abortion and the death penalty should be prohibited. I personally don't care which one, but to have one legal and one illegal is just idiotic.
 
2&2 Slider To Leyritz said:
I mean, I can see the difference between killing an unborn baby and killing someone who has murdered one or more other people. But maybe that is just me; if you think that is hypocrisy, then keep telling yourself that to try to justify it in your own mind.

Though personally, I think it should be consistent. Either abortion should be legal and we should have the ability/authority to use the death penalty much more frequently than we do; or both abortion and the death penalty should be prohibited. I personally don't care which one, but to have one legal and one illegal is just idiotic.
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LOL at me needing to make the justification in my mind after your mental gymnastics.
 
2&2 Slider To Leyritz said:
What mental gymnastics? Please explain.
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assuming that fetus is a human life, and it can't be killed on the grounds that all human life is sacred, there should be no doubt that living person is in fact a person. regardless, you recognize the inconsistent nature of the two positions in the 2nd paragraph.
 
Ball State Deac said:
assuming that fetus is a human life, and it can't be killed on the grounds that all human life is sacred, there should be no doubt that living person is in fact a person. regardless, you recognize the inconsistent nature of the two positions in the 2nd paragraph.
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I think your second assumption is a false assumption. I think many people oppose abortion on the belief that an innocent life (i.e. an unborn baby) is sacred. I don't think it is "mental gymnastics" to think that a life can lose its innocence through its own conscious acts, that seems pretty basic. To me that is much less "mental gymnastics" than it takes to convince ones self that a mother should be able to kill a baby for her convenience but the state/society should not be able to kill a proven violent criminal.

As I mentioned, I think both positions are hypocritical, but I can make more sense of the anti-abortion pro-death-penalty version. The pro-choice anti-death-penalty viewpoint is just fucking moronic.

Anti-abortion anti-death penalty makes sense; as does pro-choice pro-death penalty.
 
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What if I'm against people getting abortions and also against capital punishment, but recognize that both are legal, and don't get all worked up and call my politicians and carry a sign down the sidewalk? Is that ideologically pure enough or do I have to spend hours online arguing about it?
 
expecting people to hold to core logic for all situations is dumb unless you're talking to a robot or a vulcan
 
2&2 Slider To Leyritz said:
I think your second assumption is a false assumption. I think many people oppose abortion on the belief that an innocent life (i.e. an unborn baby) is sacred. I don't think it is "mental gymnastics" to think that a life can lose its innocence through its own conscious acts, that seems pretty basic. To me that is much less "mental gymnastics" than it takes to convince ones self that a mother should be able to kill a baby for her convenience but the state/society should not be able to kill a proven violent criminal.

As I mentioned, I think both positions are hypocritical, but I can make more sense of the anti-abortion pro-death-penalty version. The pro-choice anti-death-penalty viewpoint is just fucking moronic.

Anti-abortion anti-death penalty makes sense; as does pro-choice pro-death penalty.
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Couldn't you opposed the death penalty due to lack of evidence that it is a deterrent and it could cost significantly more to try those cases? Practically it doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. I also believe that women should have the right to chose, but that wouldn't make it the first time someone has called me a moron.
 
jhmd2000 said:
You make a good point. I regret that this animal can't be stripped of his citizenship before we put him to death.

Reminder: Bro blew up a child on purpose.
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I'm not defending Tsarnaev. He is a murdering fuck head and should rot in prison for the rest of his life.
 
I'm sorry, but dying is worse than any other punishment.

Especially if the alternative is living life without ever having to worry about food, shelter, or clothing...things non-murderous people struggle with daily.
 
Junebug said:
But the circumstances of each are so different that I just don't see how one's view on one topic has anything to do with one's view on the other topic.
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Why? They are pretty much the only two intentional, non-self-defense killings of other people legally allowed within in the United States. They share a lot of common elements, and are really almost identical. It is killing permitted for someone else's motivating factors. It is a third party stepping in and saying "for reasons I/we deem appropriate, you do not deserve to live". At its root, I don't see much difference between the two.
 
2&2 Slider To Leyritz said:
Why? They are pretty much the only two intentional, non-self-defense killings of other people legally allowed within in the United States. They share a lot of common elements, and are really almost identical. It is killing permitted for someone else's motivating factors. It is a third party stepping in and saying "for reasons I/we deem appropriate, you do not deserve to live". At its root, I don't see much difference between the two.
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You don't see much difference between the killing of a fetus by its mother because its presence is unwanted or inconvenient and the killing of (for instance) a convicted mass murderer by the government because society had deemed his life forfeit due to his conscious actions?
 
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