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Being black has nothing to do with it. Obama incited millions of people to hate certain people for being successful. Which in turn incited those many otherwise good, successful people. Which snowballed and the result is the Tea Party and Trump.

Typical RW myth and lie to justify their own hatred.
 
Being black has nothing to do with it. Obama incited millions of people to hate certain people for being successful. Which in turn incited those many otherwise good, successful people. Which snowballed and the result is the Tea Party and Trump.

It's amazing you think this despite what you said earlier about Obama and Trump merely tapping into those emotions that already existed.
 
I think open carry is a bad idea. Open carry puts everyone else on edge and makes it too difficult to tell the good guys from the bad guys. Open carry bans strike me as a sensible gun control measure that will actually have an impact.

I wonder why Guns, our savior from thugs and "those people," would put "everyone else on edge?" Maybe if they all had guns too, they wouldn't be so edgy.

Also, don't the "good guys" have to reveal their guns to take down the "bad guys?" When the guns are blazing, your buddies aren't going to have their names floating over their heads like you practice in Call of Duty on Friday nights in your mom's basement.
 
What radicalizes American Muslims is Americans who are bigoted against them. Hell, we even a presidential candidate who has attacked our current POTUS as being a Muslim (as if that was bad) and mow accuses the POTUS of being a terrorist.

The biggest problem we have in America with Muslims is RW bigots who marginalize and insult American Muslims.
Eh, I think thats an overly partisan and naive take. I'm not saying that the rise of Trump hasn't hurt us, but the fuel of the hatred is our continious military and cultural push into middle eastern and Islamic countries for the last 75 years, with all the manipulative coups and regime changes

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Also, Israel. Thats a big one.

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Eh, I think thats an overly partisan and naive take. I'm not saying that the rise of Trump hasn't hurt us, but the fuel of the hatred is our continious military and cultural push into middle eastern and Islamic countries for the last 75 years, with all the manipulative coups and regime changes

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It's not partisan to say that bigotry and institutionalized hatred impacts this. It's simply logic and fact.
 
I wonder why Guns, our savior from thugs and "those people," would put "everyone else on edge?" Maybe if they all had guns too, they wouldn't be so edgy.

Also, don't the "good guys" have to reveal their guns to take down the "bad guys?" When the guns are blazing, your buddies aren't going to have their names floating over their heads like you practice in Call of Duty on Friday nights in your mom's basement.

Dungeons and Dragons is Friday night. Call of Duty is Saturday night. And it's at Robert E.'s basement because his mom works the graveyard shift at the gun factory.

But don't let the FACTS get in your way.
 
whoa whoa whoa, let's not bring D&D and videogames into this mess. is nothing sacred anymore?
 
no, I only played once when I was a kid but I think with the right group I'd really enjoy it.
 
we were already stuck with her. I think the issue is about bringing in more people. I guess liberals is a business and importing more hate will keep you guys busy.

Not sure I am following you...or why you are calling me a liberal. I am not.

"we should not be a melting pot for people who do not champion equality for all."

I agree.
 
it is funny on this thread to see the handful of VERY conservative posters and the handful of VERY liberal posters (okr, really just RJ :) - no offense RJ, I'm not intending for this to be a huge negative) automatically label everyone else based on some pretty moderate posts/questions.
 
it is funny on this thread to see the handful of VERY conservative posters and the handful of VERY liberal posters (okr, really just RJ :) - no offense RJ, I'm not intending for this to be a huge negative) automatically label everyone else based on some pretty moderate posts/questions.

Not sure what you're getting at, but I still think you're one of the more intelligent people on here (after all, you're the person who taught me to use my context clues)- I just disagree with you on this and a number of other issues. You probably think I'm rightwing but with the exception of immigration and my feelings about the corrosive aspects of pc culture, I'm probably one of the most leftwing people on here. I tend to agree with Trump on immigration and trade- those are both big issues for me. And I have despised the Clintons ever since NAFTA. But I won't be voting for either one.
 
it is funny on this thread to see the handful of VERY conservative posters and the handful of VERY liberal posters (okr, really just RJ :) - no offense RJ, I'm not intending for this to be a huge negative) automatically label everyone else based on some pretty moderate posts/questions.

If you think RJ is the only VERY liberal poster (or even the most liberal), you haven't spent enough time on these here Tunnels.
 
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