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Official '16-17 NBA Thread: not with a bang but a whimper

I don't get why it matters to anyone other than gamblers if teams lie about injuries. You can game plan either way.
 
RJKarl said:
I don't get why it matters to anyone other than gamblers if teams lie about injuries. You can game plan either way.
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you don't get why fans who want to buy tix or merch or watch games care about the health of their players?
 
TownieDeac said:
you don't get why fans who want to buy tix or merch or watch games care about the health of their players?
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For a game here or there, it won't impact merchandise sales. The number of people who decide to buy tix based on Player A is not that big and to have an impact, you'd have to assume they don't go to as many games.
 
RJKarl said:
For a game here or there, it won't impact merchandise sales. The number of people who decide to buy tix based on Player A is not that big and to have an impact, you'd have to assume they don't go to as many games.
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i don't have season tix, and i absolutely make decisions about what games to go to based on whether embiid is playing

and i've gone to something like half the home games
 
TownieDeac said:
i don't have season tix, and i absolutely make decisions about what games to go to based on whether embiid is playing

and i've gone to something like half the home games
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You can afford more games than most people. Your wife hasn't put you on a budget? :)
 
myDeaconmyhand said:
It really seems like the entire eastern conference outside of Toronto is just trying to wait out the Lebron Cavaliers. Its pretty chicken shit how none of the East playoff teams are trying to win now, meanwhile 3 different West teams are fighting to get swept by the Dubs.
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Ya it sucks

I think it would be interesting for NBA to dabble with a 16 team non conference based playoff. Once playoff starts everyone gets reseeded 1-16
 
RJKarl said:
You can afford more games than most people. Your wife hasn't put you on a budget? :)
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she goes with me

also you can get in the stadium for like $20 to most games, they aren't very good
 
i think the only team in the east that punted was the Celtics. raptors and wiz were aggressive, doesn't make sense for any other team to really make big win-now moves.

Cousins was had for so cheap that Boston definitely should have acquired him tho. Even if it doesn't work out it's not the end of the world.
 
I agree, Celtics should have gotten Cousins. It's possible though, given Sac's dumbness, that the C's could have made an ostensibly better offer and gotten refused. Because the Kings have the weird Buddy fetish.
 
I'm surprised townie draws the line at the sixers giving a massive fuck you to fans who buy tickets at "lying about injuries" and not "trying to go winless if possible to acquire the best draft picks which you then turn into 4 big men who can't play together and aren't actually on the court at all for the most part," but every man does have his limit
 
It's a pretty big myth that the sixers were hard to watch. Some of the simpletons didn't like the losing and couldn't do it. But it was mostly enjoyable to watch the Hinkie era games. Certainly more enjoyable than before when the sixers were winning 40 per year with nothing going on / no potential like the Hornets now or whatever.
 
I know how sixers fans feel. I once watched the team with the worst record in NBA history and we ended up with MKG. It's not enjoyable, no matter how many times you try to convince yourself.
 
the counterargument to the 76ers isn't the hornets. if the hornets do bad things or draft frank kaminsky or something it doesn't say anything about the process. hornets tanked too and sucked/unlucky at that. they've made stupid decisions irrespective of an overall philosophy. and as an nba junkie i enjoyed last season a lot.

embiid is fun to watch, as someone with league pass that watched a lot of random games playing DFS i disagree that the non embiid 76ers were fun to watch.
 
tintinisahottie said:
I'm surprised townie draws the line at the sixers giving a massive fuck you to fans who buy tickets at "lying about injuries" and not "trying to go winless if possible to acquire the best draft picks which you then turn into 4 big men who can't play together and aren't actually on the court at all for the most part," but every man does have his limit
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is this a sentence
 
the team is very fun to watch with embiid and sometimes they even win without him

it's good they're trying to win games now

last year was kinda fun for a few games with ish, but this year has been a lot more fun overall
 
single best thing hinkie has ever done was the positive PR campaign he put on the tank and the #trusttheprocess tag, etc that a lot of fans understood and still champion

i swear to god during the bobcats 7 win season tank you'd have thought that MJ killed someone. media thinks bobcats/hornets should be contracted, none of the fans bought it, attendance was moribund. team was unsustainable in that place for very long.
 
FckVwls said:
It's a pretty big myth that the sixers were hard to watch. Some of the simpletons didn't like the losing and couldn't do it. But it was mostly enjoyable to watch the Hinkie era games. Certainly more enjoyable than before when the sixers were winning 40 per year with nothing going on / no potential like the Hornets now or whatever.
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Free Big Macs!
 
Fuck Your Couch said:
single best thing hinkie has ever done was the positive PR campaign he put on the tank and the #trusttheprocess tag, etc that a lot of fans understood and still champion

i swear to god during the bobcats 7 win season tank you'd have thought that MJ killed someone. media thinks bobcats/hornets should be contracted, none of the fans bought it, attendance was moribund. team was unsustainable in that place for very long.
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Tanking for one season isn't really useful unless you get lucky. If the Hornets had an organized plan to accumulate a treasure chest of assets over multiple seasons then I think some people would be on board. Obviously the 2&2 Slider's of the world would want to burn it to the ground.

Also, Hinkie didn't put out any positive PR campaign regarding his moves. "Trust the process" was created by a Sixers fan podcast.
 
The problem is that so many GMs don't have plans. They just click buttons. Oh we are bad right now, lets trade our vets and tank this year, and then sign people in offseason and we'll be better next year. Oh, we can trade our first round pick for player X and we could make the playoffs this year.

Just no vision as how to how to get to being an NBA title contender.
 
FckVwls said:
Tanking for one season isn't really useful unless you get lucky. If the Hornets had an organized plan to accumulate a treasure chest of assets over multiple seasons then I think some people would be on board. Obviously the 2&2 Slider's of the world would want to burn it to the ground.

Also, Hinkie didn't put out any positive PR campaign regarding his moves. "Trust the process" was created by a Sixers fan podcast.
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they were terrible for 3 seasons after trading their best 2 players on a playoff team for picks and cap space. they didn't get as much as the 76ers, but that doesn't matter in the broad strokes of this discussion.

and i thought although he didn't popularize it, hinkie started trust the process in philly media, like local nba beat etc. regardless, there was a better campaign in philly from somewhere.
 
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