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Covid-19 - Treatments & Vaccines

Rafi, Louis and others, what do you think are the best studies we have for (or against) masks in different environments?
 
to be fair a week or two after my wife got the vaccine she developed alopecia areata. It's either the world's largest coincidence or the vaccine caused it, more likely the latter as there's a few other people reporting it but it isn't a widely googlable side effect. However, a woman losing 2 chunks of hair with a radius of an inch is certainly enough to make her not want to get any booster shots/the vax going forward, and I can't exactly blame her. (I was going to get the vax anyways but she arranged the whole thing and was fully on board with getting the vax until she lost a sizable chunk of hair) I tell her she doesn't know it was from the vax but the timing is hard to deny, and I know there's a real chance she isn't going to be getting booster shots going forward. Ya can't lose that much hair and not freak out a bit if you're otherwise young and healthy.
 
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Tobacco Road said:
Rafi, Louis and others, what do you think are the best studies we have for (or against) masks in different environments?
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IMO, there's the Bangladeshi cluster RCT and then there is everything else. Incredible study. Doesn't provide all the answers of course, as it was done in an environment with very low vaccine penetration, and didn't directly address things like masks for kids in schools. But to the extent that some people were still trying to argue that masks don't work generally, that debate should be over now.

https://www.poverty-action.org/stud...promotion-mask-uptake-and-covid-19-bangladesh
 
DeacsPop said:
Still don’t understand why I know guys getting the Pfizer booster but I can’t schedule the Moderna booster.
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Moderna's supply chain is more dependent on needs from outside the US.
 
Edit: I am going to delete this because I can't find the story I heard describing the differences between the two shots and I don't want to be responsible for spreading misinformation.
 
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thatguy2016 said:
Nicki Minaj with vaccine advice and a fascinating anecdote

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Tobacco Road said:
That is so sad. The vaccine ruined what was obviously going to be a successful marriage.
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Highland Deac said:
Sounds like somebody got a STD from a side piece and used the vaccine as a convenient excuse for the fiancee.
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Some number of people will die from Covid because Nicki Minaj's cousin in Trinidad was lying about an STD. What fucking time to be alive.
 
tiltdeac said:
IMO, there's the Bangladeshi cluster RCT and then there is everything else. Incredible study. Doesn't provide all the answers of course, as it was done in an environment with very low vaccine penetration, and didn't directly address things like masks for kids in schools. But to the extent that some people were still trying to argue that masks don't work generally, that debate should be over now.

https://www.poverty-action.org/stud...promotion-mask-uptake-and-covid-19-bangladesh
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Not really. That study gets cited a lot, but not for what it should be cited for. Its actual conclusion is that surgical masks (which it does a poor job of defining as there are a wide variety) are effective. Cloth masks have a negligible impact. But when that study gets heralded as support for masks in schools, it is pretty much irrelevant as probably less than 10% of kids in masked schools wear surgical masks, they all wear cloth. Is that study relevant in a hospital where most people are wearing surgical masks? Sure. Is it relevant in WalMart where most people are wearing cloth? Nope. All it really does is support the farting in your drawers analogy with cloth masks.

I'm not anti-mask insofar as it it brings people's perception of what is actually low risk in line with said actual low risk, so it helps society continue with the placebo effect, so mask away. But I am anti-bullshit. That study shows that cloth masks are better then nothing, but not by much and probably negligible when compared to other hygienic activities. If we're going to roll out surgical mask or N95 requirements for everyone then use that study all day long, but it definitely does not solve the overall mask debate when taken in light of the kinds of masks actually being worn by the majority of the population. And it certainly should not be used in support of school mask policies where virtually no surgical masks are worn.

Again, I support masking because of the placebo effect it has shown to have on society in light of the actual risk. But that study does not match the effect of most mask mandates.
 
bym051d said:
I assumed it was the same reason Pfizer is approved for 12yo+ and soon for 5-12 and Moderna is still 18+.
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I was talking more about why you can find Pfizer shots in general than Moderna right now. It ebbs and flows.

I'm not feeling very optimistic about the 5-12 until at least November at this point.
 
DeacsPop said:
Still don’t understand why I know guys getting the Pfizer booster but I can’t schedule the Moderna booster.
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What's the word on the boosters? Seems like there is a bunch of varying info on whether they are necessary. FDA doesn't seem like they are, Biden/Fauci say yes.

Maybe the olds do? but regular folks don't?
 
WFcatamount22 said:
What's the word on the boosters? Seems like there is a bunch of varying info on whether they are necessary. FDA doesn't seem like they are, Biden/Fauci say yes.

Maybe the olds do? but regular folks don't?
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Immunocompromised definitely, olds probably need them. Maybe those with multiple co-morbidities that would put them at high risk if they contracted.

Young and generally healthy probably not.
 
I'm starting to think that 2&2 does not actually know what the placebo effect is
 
"I heard Joe Rogan was saying, 'What are you busting my balls (for)? I took horse dewormer, and a doctor gave it to me.' Well, a doctor would also give you a vaccine; so, why take horse-dewormer?" - Howard Stern
 
wakephan09 said:
I'm starting to think that 2&2 does not actually know what the placebo effect is
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Meh. This is just a placebo post.

Liquid Karma said:
I was talking more about why you can find Pfizer shots in general than Moderna right now. It ebbs and flows.

I'm not feeling very optimistic about the 5-12 until at least November at this point.
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That's about 6 weeks from now. That's good. Seems to match with what the Pfizer CEO said today.
 
Deacfreak07 said:
Some number of people will die from Covid because Nicki Minaj's cousin in Trinidad was lying about an STD. What fucking time to be alive.
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If Tucker finds him, maybe he'll ask him to show his swollen testicles from that dangerous covid vaccination he had.

 
R/hermancainaward is going nuts. I swear it was 150k members 2 days ago and now it’s 220k. Basically every trumper who’s dying now was a proud anti Vaxxer and let errrbody know and the internet is memorializing it in remarkable fashion
 
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