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WFU Hoops: '23-'24 Roster Construction Thread: +Miller, Sallis, Reid, & Canka

It stands to ask whether or not Bobi just wants to turn pro instead of being in college, draft or not. I think too many times us fans just see these players fates in binary, as if the only 2 good options are playing college 4 years or getting drafted in the NBA, when in reality there are plenty of other ways to be a successful pro basketball player.
 
Especially for a player who has maybe only spent maybe 3 years of his life wanting to play college basketball.
 
The guy was not a starter until end of year for a team that missed the NIT by a good margin.

Why is he turning pro now? Potential is not good enough if I am a season ticket holder.
 
Either VCU or Wake would be considered close enough to home, considering he is transferring from the west coast.

He should know about the waiver within a month or so.
We really have no idea when. Last year there were a number of guys that heard after the season started. I recall August being the time many of the decisions came through, but I think it will be more straightforward this year, and I expect there to be way less waivers granted, but you never know with the gutless NCAA.

I also find it funny that if somebody in an identical situation to Reid transferred to UNC you would have Wake fans clamoring about how it's ridiculous that he got a waiver, but we'll all say all summer long that Reid should get one. I think it's 50/50 at best but we really have no idea until we see how serious the NCAA is about enforcement with the new guidelines.
 
The guy was not a starter until end of year for a team that missed the NIT by a good margin.

Why is he turning pro now? Potential is not good enough if I am a season ticket holder.
One of the many reasons season ticket holders don't make draft picks. But I do suspect Bobi will be back.

If you think whether a player's college team made the tournament matters in any way to an NBA front office, you are widely off base. I think his draft profile will ultimately come down to his performance in 5 on 5 play and 3 point shooting in the combine. If he plays the way he did the last few games of the season and hits 3s at a nice clip in the combine, I wouldn't be shocked for a team in the 20s to be all over him and plan to throw him in the G league for a year. Even with all of that said, I think his situation is different than Jake's and he'll be back.
 
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The guy was not a starter until end of year for a team that missed the NIT by a good margin.

Why is he turning pro now? Potential is not good enough if I am a season ticket holder.

Pretty sure season ticket holders for the Santa Cruz Warriors or the Delaware Blue Coats do it strictly for the potential.
 
There are poorly run teams all over the draft order like the Hornets and T-Wolves.

If Bobi wants to be a professional, he’ll stay in the draft. If Bobi wants to be a college athlete, he will come back to Wake. His draft prospects this year and next will factor into but that’s secondary to the life he wants to live.
If he is really good (first round good), you also have to get thru that first contract to get to the really lucrative second contract. Just saying.
 
It stands to ask whether or not Bobi just wants to turn pro instead of being in college, draft or not. I think too many times us fans just see these players fates in binary, as if the only 2 good options are playing college 4 years or getting drafted in the NBA, when in reality there are plenty of other ways to be a successful pro basketball player.
If that was true there would be no reason to stay in Winston and finish the semester and sit for finals. Bobi is coming back or staying in the draft, and I really think he'd only stay in the draft if he got significant interest from several mid first round teams, which I don't think will happen.

The reason Bobi's situation is so different from Jake's is that Jake was much more of a finished product. If Jake came back and had a first team all-ACC season, he probably goes from the 19th overall pick to like 17th. Bobi is so raw with such a pro type body that if he comes back and makes a big jump he can go from second rounder to lottery pick.
 
If that was true there would be no reason to stay in Winston and finish the semester and sit for finals. .

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that’s not true at all. I have no idea how many college credits Bobi has, but it’s very likely that he is in good academic standing and has a good relationship with the coaching staff and his advisors, who would all encourage him to finish the semester and earn his credits. You and I must have a different mindset about turning pro, because I don’t think just because Bobi might leave to go play in Europe or fight for a 2 way NBA contract that it makes him some kind of irresponsible quitter.
 
If Damari can rebound from what has been an unimaginably tragic year, I’d say this team is primed to not only make the tourney but could do some serious damage. This should be by far the most athletic and dynamic team Forbes has fielded. We’re 8 deep without even talking about our incoming freshmen.

Must. Contain. The. Vibes.
 
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that’s not true at all. I have no idea how many college credits Bobi has, but it’s very likely that he is in good academic standing and has a good relationship with the coaching staff and his advisors, who would all encourage him to finish the semester and earn his credits. You and I must have a different mindset about turning pro, because I don’t think just because Bobi might leave to go play in Europe or fight for a 2 way NBA contract that it makes him some kind of irresponsible quitter.
Lmao what? So Jake LaRavia was an irresponsible quitter?
 
That’s one possible angle to get a waiver (of many), but since he was deciding between Wake and VCU, which is literally in his home town, that’s not the angle I’d play, and contrary to your point clearly had nothing to do with his decision.
Being at Wake vs VCU would have zero bearing on his waiver. If the other option was like Marquette, sure. But somewhere 3 hours away versus Washington is going to more then likely be tested the same as Richmond
 
Let's say stars align Bobi comes back, Damari is healthy and Efton gets the waiver.

Not necessarily in starting order:

Boopie 25 Sallis 10 Cam 5
Cam 20 Sallis 10 Damari 5
Damari 20 Bobi 15 Sallis 5
Bobi 15 Carr 20 Keller/MMM 5
Efton 22 Marsh 12 Carr 6
 
“Let’s kick off a guard when the guard depth is already somewhat thin to make up for a big”
Hopefully it doesn’t come to it but if they decide they need another scholarship I’m confident Jao is the one to go. Wouldn’t be Marsh because even though the whole point of opening a scholly would be to make sure he’s not your starting center, you wouldn’t want to be left without him as a backup if Reid can’t play. Everything I’ve heard has been that Jao is a long way away from being an ACC contributor and guard depth actually isn’t that thin if Cam and/or Sallis can handle minutes at the point behind Boopie.

Also not sure what you mean by “making up for a big”. Do you think the staff would boot a big because they need another big? That makes sense…

My point is they’d boot Jao if they think they need another big. Hopefully they don’t need one.
 
Hopefully it doesn’t come to it but if they decide they need another scholarship I’m confident Jao is the one to go. Wouldn’t be Marsh because even though the whole point of opening a scholly would be to make sure he’s not your starting center, you wouldn’t want to be left without him as a backup if Reid can’t play. Everything I’ve heard has been that Jao is a long way away from being an ACC contributor and guard depth actually isn’t that thin if Cam and/or Sallis can handle minutes at the point behind Boopie.
I’m very confident the staff would prefer Cam nor Sallis to not be the primary ball handler for long stretches of time. You’re simply just making things up with zero basis. Which is par for the course
 
Being at Wake vs VCU would have zero bearing on his waiver. If the other option was like Marquette, sure. But somewhere 3 hours away versus Washington is going to more then likely be tested the same as Richmond
I think none of us know what will happen and the NCAA might as well choose randomly at this point, but the story of playing closer to home is objectively easier to argue playing in your home down versus several hours away. That’s pretty obvious.
 
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