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US News 2024 Rankings (Wake #47)

So we didn't really attract the BEST students when we were #29 so what's the difference ?
 
This formula approach seems like a terrible way to rank schools anyway. Seems like a better way would be to ask people in academia to rank schools based on their perception of them and then aggregate those rankings. They do something similar for big law firms and it seems to produce a ranking that is pretty accurate
 
i understand that deepmhasiszing legacy adsmissions is an admiralable goal but do first generation college students affect the academic rigor and success rate of graduates?
 
MysteryMen said:
This formula approach seems like a terrible way to rank schools anyway. Seems like a better way would be to ask people in academia to rank schools based on their perception of them and then aggregate those rankings. They do something similar for big law firms and it seems to produce a ranking that is pretty accurate
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Peer assessment is 20% of the US News rankings, but I think using only that would be a terrible way to rank schools. History shows (at least on the law school side, I don’t know if this holds true for the peer rankings for the undergraduate institutions) that it is almost impossible to change your peer ranking over time, even when all sorts of other metrics change.
 
ImTheCaptain said:
i understand that deepmhasiszing legacy adsmissions is an admiralable goal but do first generation college students affect the academic rigor and success rate of graduates?
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Loading up on Pell Grant recipients has been scientifically proven to really increase the quality of your Accounting major.
 
I love that someone is seriously making an argument that because we got away from our historical values, which from that poster appears to be not admitting minorities and no dancing, that is the reason we dropped in the rankings.
 
This is what happens when you only have 25 kids in your marching band.

Switch to frisbee dogs NOW !!!!
 
Louis Gossett Jr said:
I love that someone is seriously making an argument that because we got away from our historical values, which from that poster appears to be not admitting minorities and no dancing, that is the reason we dropped in the rankings.
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Sports board riff raff
 
Rough. Wake may lose a lot of applicants over the coming years. Aren't those ranking the standard still?
 
Louis Gossett Jr said:
I love that someone is seriously making an argument that because we got away from our historical values, which from that poster appears to be not admitting minorities and no dancing, that is the reason we dropped in the rankings.
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it's probably b/c we banned RJ
 
Just when you think nobody can top we dropped because we aren’t conservative enough what’s that DonaldRoss clown car music.
 
Wakelaw2006 said:
Peer assessment is 20% of the US News rankings, but I think using only that would be a terrible way to rank schools. History shows (at least on the law school side, I don’t know if this holds true for the peer rankings for the undergraduate institutions) that it is almost impossible to change your peer ranking over time, even when all sorts of other metrics change.
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That’s a fair point. But a lot of these other metrics can be gamed, and it seems like some of the newer changes are designed primarily to incentivize schools to do certain things, not to measure how well the students of those schools end up doing.

It all begs the question of what the rankings are designed to be measuring. I always thought it was which schools leave their graduates best prepared to succeed after graduation. It’s hard to say that this year’s list reflects that, so I’m not sure exactly what they think they’re doing. I know a ton of people who went to some of the big public schools ahead of us on the list. A Wake Forest grad has a better long term earning potential than them
 
How about we promote all of our staff members to faculty members ? Will that make a difference ?
 
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