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Official 2023-24 NBA Season Thread - Conference Finals: Celtics-Pacers, T-Wolves-Mavericks

Jokic was 11/11 from the field and 3/3 from the line with a 26 pt triple double.
 
went to bulls-pacers last night -- haliburton's dad was in the section and he was holding court before the game

hali with 20 assists to zero turnovers -- his game is so weird to me in that his shot has a hitch, he doesn't run the game with a ball on a string like CP3, he's not great at getting to the rim, but he just produces -- you don't really feel like he's running things until he sits down and the offense falls apart
 
JuiceCrewAllStar said:
Spurs playing the Zers in Portland on back to back nights

weird
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Not that weird since they added those during COVID to lessen travel. Makes more sense than back to backs against different teams.

What is weird is that neither of the first two Wemby vs. Scoot games was national.
 
TownieDeac said:
Jokic was 11/11 from the field and 3/3 from the line with a 26 pt triple double.
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That's 1 of the things I love about Jokic. He was averaging 30, 13 and 10 in last year's playoffs but on only 15-17 shots.

Juice, that's really cool. I saw this a.m. what he had done.
 
Every time I’ve seen Jokic play, he has shot poorly but I hadn’t looked as his stats overall. Here are his percentages over the last four seasons:

57/39/87
58/34/82
63/39/82
55/33/82

He’s definitely shooting worse. His numbers last year were incredible. For the entire season, he was 6 made threes and 12 assists away from averaging a 63/40/82 triple-double for the #1 team in the West.
 
PhDeac said:
Not that weird since they added those during COVID to lessen travel. Makes more sense than back to backs against different teams.

What is weird is that neither of the first two Wemby vs. Scoot games was national.
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Scoot stinks. The one thing that the Hornets got right.
 
Scoot had 25 last night. He’ll be good. It’s worth wondering if G-League Ignite prepares guys to play right away.
 
PhDeac said:
Scoot had 25 last night. He’ll be good. It’s worth wondering if G-League Ignite prepares guys to play right away.
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Eh. He was 8-23 in 36 minutes in a game they lost against a horrible team. It is the NBA, somebody has to score, especially in a game between two bad teams.

He has been pretty dogshit all year, while getting significant minutes. Shooting 36.7% from the field and 26.8% from 3. Maybe he ends up being okay, but usually guys don't learn to shoot after they get to the NBA.
 
JuiceCrewAllStar said:
litigating scoot vs miller after like 35 games is dumb
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Why? It was extensively litigated both predraft and immediately postdraft. Nobody (including myself) had a problem litigating it at that time as an opportunity to clown the Hornets. At least now there is some actual relevant performance to go on. Miller's numbers are really good, even ignoring that he is a rookie. Scoot has sucked so far, even factoring in that he is a rookie.
 
look at dudes that have won ROY or made the all rookie teams -- lots of good players and lots of guys that are nothing now

if you're arguing who is having the better season then fine, but if you're arguing which is the better pick then you need a few more years
 
It looks like both of them will be good down the road. Miller is certainly better now. Wouldn't be shocked if Scoot closes the gap by the end of the year. Jaquez may be better than both.

This year's rookie class has two definite future perennial All-Stars. Wemby and Chet are probably borderline All-Stars this season. Beyond that, there may be 2 others who make it eventually between Miller, Scoot, Jaquez, Ausar, Lively II, and George. It's a deep class of guys who will still be in the league in 8 years.
 
i like jaquez's game a lot, but it definitely feels much closer to its fully-formed version than most of the other top rookie prospects
 
TownieDeac said:
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I think the rules are making the old "they don't play defense in the NBA" issue a reality. Unless you are on a Silver-favored team, you can't play any sort of low post defense without getting called for a foul. Combine that with the barrage of 3s and how the asinine "room to land foul" is called, and we are getting a lot of halfhearted hands in the air while 5 feet away as "defense". It's not a lack of desire to play defense, it is a lack of permission to play defense. Really the only place you can try to play defense is the midrange, but hardly anybody takes midrange shots anymore.
 
JuiceCrewAllStar said:
i like jaquez's game a lot, but it definitely feels much closer to its fully-formed version than most of the other top rookie prospects
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That's a fair criticism. The question is how far he can go with that game for the Heat.
 
Jaquez also benefits from the Heat treatment. If he played like that for almost anyone else he'd foul out in the first quarter.

I guess it's possible that Scoot catches Miller. But Miller can shoot the light out when he gets rolling. He is over 38% from deep on decent volume. That isn't a skill that disappears, so his floor is really high - probably Mike Miller at the absolute worst. Scoot has a long way to go to be decent.
 
Here’s hoping 2&2 leaves his bitchass whining bit in 2023 for a more interesting troll
 
i find his bitching entertaining

and definitely wish the hand check would return
 
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