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2024 Carolina Panthers thread - WR Leggette, RB Brooks, LB Wallace, TE Sanders, CB Smith-Wade, DT Crumedy, LB Barrett

Screamindemon3 said:
This. I would have been fine if we went JPJ at 32 and XL at 39. Still a lot of good players left. If JPJ is there then I feel better about it.
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Right, and as Bill Belichick pointed out last night, that 5th year option is important for a highly-paid position like WR, whereas it is pretty irrelevant for a Center. So from a roster management and salary cap standpoint it makes sense why they would go Legette at 32 and JPJ at 39. The glaring question is whether Legette is capable of being a #1 WR, but they have set things up well with that expectation.
 
Louis Gossett Jr said:
We have been through this it’s important to be able to lock up your most likely bust 28 year old wide receiver to that 5th year contract, then you can franchise them the following year while you work on making them the highest paid receiver.
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I understand and agree with the unlikelihood of this working out given their prior draft and personnel evaluation failures. But at least Morgan is thinking through the total process and putting them in the best position to take advantage of the situation if it does happen to materialize, by not giving up much at all. Hurney and Fitterer had their thumbs up their asses for years with this type of thing.
 
C, CB, EDGE, DT with the 39th pick. I think we might hold off on Center at #39 and either hold our breath till #65 or try to move up from that spot to get JPJ.

BTW, we still have a 5th round pick. We had back to back picks int he 5th round, both of which came from trades.
 
So did Buffalo somehow convince the Panthers that another team was about to draft Legette? Maybe this is why the Panthers shouldn't have the prospect out here giving interviews about how certain he is that the Panthers are going to take him lol

Either that or we gave away draft capital in order to have the option for a 5th year option on a guy that we have no idea will even be good. Pretty crazy for a GM that may not even be here in 5 years to do that.
 
deacon14 said:
So did Buffalo somehow convince the Panthers that another team was about to draft Legette? Maybe this is why the Panthers shouldn't have the prospect out here giving interviews about how certain he is that the Panthers are going to take him lol

Either that or we gave away draft capital in order to have the option for a 5th year option on a guy that we have no idea will even be good. Pretty crazy for a GM that may not even be here in 5 years to do that.
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Dropping from the 5th to the 6th isn't giving up "draft capital". They are basically fungible picks. Picks in that range are unlikely crapshoots anyway, you are either going to identify the right guy or not; chances are he'll be there at either pick in the 5th or the 6th as the consensus is so skewed at that point. That drop is well worth it for the 5th year option if the guy you are taking in the 1st round, who is the one you are really banking on - not a 5th/6th rounder - materializes. Even drafting as bad as the Panthers, the odds that the 1st round pick will be here in 5 years are significantly higher than the 5th/6th rounder still being here or even making the team in the first place.
 
I’m trying to think of a late 1st round receiver that had their option picked up and I got nothing.
 
2&2 Slider To Leyritz said:
Dropping from the 5th to the 6th isn't giving up "draft capital". They are basically fungible picks. Picks in that range are unlikely crapshoots anyway, you are either going to identify the right guy or not; chances are he'll be there at either pick in the 5th or the 6th as the consensus is so skewed at that point. That drop is well worth it for the 5th year option if the guy you are taking in the 1st round, who is the one you are really banking on - not a 5th/6th rounder - materializes. Even drafting as bad as the Panthers, the odds that the 1st round pick will be here in 5 years are significantly higher than the 5th/6th rounder still being here or even making the team in the first place.
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Well the Bills are a way better run front office than the Panthers, and it seems like they wholeheartedly disagree with your assessment here. Seems like they valued jumping from the 6th to the 5th way more than a potential 5th year option.

Also pick #141 is not equivalent value to pick #200, or even close. Going from the back half of the 6th to the beginning of the 5th is absolutely meaningful.
 
deacon14 said:
Well the Bills are a way better run front office than the Panthers, and it seems like they wholeheartedly disagree with your assessment here. Seems like they valued jumping from the 6th to the 5th way more than a potential 5th year option.

Also pick #141 is not equivalent value to pick #200, or even close. Going from the back half of the 6th to the beginning of the 5th is absolutely meaningful.
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Not if the Bills aren't targeting a WR, QB, or Edge with that 33rd pick. As Belichick explained, the positional contract value of the pick dictates whether you may need that 5th year option.

As Biff said, they already have a 5th round pick. This is swapping the second 5th for a 6th. This compensation is meaningless.
 
2&2 Slider To Leyritz said:
Dropping from the 5th to the 6th isn't giving up "draft capital". They are basically fungible picks. Picks in that range are unlikely crapshoots anyway, you are either going to identify the right guy or not; chances are he'll be there at either pick in the 5th or the 6th as the consensus is so skewed at that point. That drop is well worth it for the 5th year option if the guy you are taking in the 1st round, who is the one you are really banking on - not a 5th/6th rounder - materializes. Even drafting as bad as the Panthers, the odds that the 1st round pick will be here in 5 years are significantly higher than the 5th/6th rounder still being here or even making the team in the first place.
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I guess it makes sense, but you have to keep in mind that first round pick will almost definitely be a bust.
 
soooooooooooooooo

supposedly mingo hasn't done shit this whole off season, and the new coaching staff is pretty frustrated with him
 
So, the Panthers took a flier on a guy with a poor work ethic? Ms Tepper liked him too, I guess.
 
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