bojanglefunk
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I have to say, Maggie G. almost single handedly brought TDK down a notch to being debatable about being the best comic book movie ever.
I have to say, Maggie G. almost single handedly brought TDK down a notch to being debatable about being the best comic book movie ever.
Who really cares about the Joker and Batman scene in the penthouse? I don't. Certainly not enough to dissect it. The ending of TDKR is a pivotal, life or death situation. Of course it is going to be nitpicked. It's just too implausible the way it is laid out in the movie.
Considering that Dent was in the safe room and two party goers saw where it was & how to get in, plus the fact that all of Gotham's wealthiest citizens were in there as well made it a potentially pivotal scene. You want actual pivotal: how did the Joker get that many explosive barrels onto the ferries? How did he insert a cell phone with enough explosives to destroy the entire floor of the holding cell inside of a guy's stomach without instant death? How was Batman able to accurately piece together a finger print off of bullet fragments? It's called suspension of disbelief and in such an advanced technological gadget movie, why is it plausible to have a Bat wing that flies in a way that is incredibly ahead of our current tech but implausible to not have the ability to outrun the blast or a full ejector pod with remote control?
Considering that Dent was in the safe room and two party goers saw where it was & how to get in, plus the fact that all of Gotham's wealthiest citizens were in there as well made it a potentially pivotal scene. You want actual pivotal: how did the Joker get that many explosive barrels onto the ferries? How did he insert a cell phone with enough explosives to destroy the entire floor of the holding cell inside of a guy's stomach without instant death? How was Batman able to accurately piece together a finger print off of bullet fragments? It's called suspension of disbelief and in such an advanced technological gadget movie, why is it plausible to have a Bat wing that flies in a way that is incredibly ahead of our current tech but implausible to not have the ability to outrun the blast or a full ejector pod with remote control?
Hardy is not even top 3 of performances of villains in this trilogy. He is maybe cracking the top 5 of batman movie villains, and that might be a stretch.
Ledger
Nicholson
Eckhart
Hamil (if he counts)
Maybe Hardy
You bros lost in Hardy's eyes need to slow up.
It is at least partially because he is still alive.
You mean like the short term EMP that shut down the cop cars when Batman makes his comeback on the Bat pod that had no effect on said Bat pod? JGL was looking directly into the blast with no negative results. There was no tsunami or even agitated waves coming back into the harbor. There were no gale force winds coming off of the detonation. You're taking the idea of Batman in the real world a bit too literally.
Awful list. Including Nicholson and Hamil is a joke. And it seems like you're more hard-up for Eckhart than anyone else is for Hardy.
If we're talking comic book films, Hardy's Bane can easily be entered among the best on-screen villains.
Pretty much the only redeeming feature of those movies.
So people seriously wouldn't put Hathaway's performance over Hardy's?
Awful list. Including Nicholson and Hamil is a joke. And it seems like you're more hard-up for Eckhart than anyone else is for Hardy.
If we're talking comic book films, Hardy's Bane can easily be entered among the best on-screen villains.
I think both Jokers (Ledger/Nicholson), Bane and Dent are in the first tier.
You mean like the short term EMP that shut down the cop cars when Batman makes his comeback on the Bat pod that had no effect on said Bat pod? JGL was looking directly into the blast with no negative results. There was no tsunami or even agitated waves coming back into the harbor. There were no gale force winds coming off of the detonation. You're taking the idea of Batman in the real world a bit too literally.
Nicholson's Joker should be taken in context. IIRC, he won an Oscar for it. Hamil's Joker was just as fresh. Ledger's joker doesn't exist without either.
If you bring in comic book movies, Fassbender as Magneto (maybe even McKellan) jump Hardy.
Agreed on Magneto.
Sure, at the time, Nicholson's performance was lauded (though he wasn't nominated). Just like, at the time, the effects in the original Star Wars trilogy were state of the art. But you guys need to go back and rewatch that film. Nicholson is good, no doubt, but a) its a horrible movie and b) the only Nolan villain that Nicholson would probably beat out is Murphy's Scarecrow. Neeson, Ledger, Eckhart, Hardy, and Hathaway are all much more compelling.
Agree to disagree I suppose.