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Official Wake Campus Development Thread

EatLeadCommie said:
It's tough to get into in-state as well. Lots of very smart kids from around my hood have been rejected.
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you probably know, but UT accepts something like 10% of their freshman class from out of state and Carolina accepts up to 18%
 
CaptRenault said:
It is hard, but he is good at it.

www.theassemblync.com

How to Sell a University

Nido Qubein remade High Point University from a struggling college to booming campus known for “wow” amenities. He’s not done yet.
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Interesting read - thanks for posting, I hadn't seen that one. It has certainly been something to witness over the past couple decades.
 
spritethr said:
Tuition moving from ~80k to 91k starting next year. Could be related?
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That's not an accurate number for tuition, which next year will be $67,642. The "91K" is the estimated total cost of attendance, including tuition, housing, food, books, etc.

Either way, it's a whole lot of money. List prices for colleges have escalated wildly in the past few decades, including at Wake Forest and most other colleges, both private and public. Wake is already the most expensive school in NC and this increase should solidify its #1 ranking in cost in NC. But some other elite private schools (e.g., Vandy) cost even more:

www.nytimes.com

Some Colleges Will Soon Charge $100,000 a Year. How Did This Happen?

Some Vanderbilt students will have $100,000 in total expenses for the 2024-25 school year. The school doesn’t really want to talk about it.
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It was only a matter of time before a college would have the nerve to quote its cost of attendance at nearly $100,000 a year. This spring, we’re catching our first glimpse of it.

One letter to a newly admitted Vanderbilt University engineering student showed an all-in price — room, board, personal expenses, a high-octane laptop — of $98,426. A student making three trips home to Los Angeles or London from the Nashville campus during the year could hit six figures.

This eye-popping sum is an anomaly. Only a tiny fraction of college-going students will pay anything close to this anytime soon, and about 35 percent of Vanderbilt students — those who get neither need-based nor merit aid — pay the full list price.

But a few dozen other colleges and universities that reject the vast majority of applicants will probably arrive at this threshold within a few years. Their willingness to cross it raises two questions for anyone shopping for college: How did this happen, and can it possibly be worth it?

Who Pays What​

According to the College Board, the average 2023-24 list price for tuition, fees, housing and food was $56,190 at private, nonprofit four-year schools. At four-year public colleges, in-state students saw an average $24,030 sticker price.

That’s not what many people pay, though, not even close. As of the 2019-20 school year, according to federal data that the College Board used in a 2023 report, 39 percent of in-state students attending two-year colleges full time received enough grant aid to cover all of their tuition and fees (though not their living expenses, which can make getting through school enormously difficult). At four-year public schools, 31 percent paid nothing for tuition and fees while 18 percent of students at private colleges and universities qualified for the same deal.

Those private colleges continue to provide hefty discounts for people of all sorts of incomes. A National Association of College and University Business Officers study showed private nonprofit colleges and universities lowering their tuition prices by 56 percent from the rack rate during the 2022-23 school year...
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One of the Ivy's will hit $100K this year or next. People will make a big deal about it and get outraged and then costs will continue to explode.
 
The campus Near Term Space Plan was presented to interested faculty, students and staff on February 29. Provost Michele Gillespie and Finance chief Jackie Travisano made the presentation and here is a link to a video of the 43-minute presentation:

spaceplanning.wfu.edu

Unlocking the Campus Core - Near-Term Central Space Planning Project

When we talk about “unlocking the campus core,” one of the first things that will happen is creating an Administrative Cluster in the Baity Street redevelopment area. University Advancement will move to the University Corporate Center (UCC) for temporary swing space while Carter and Front [...]
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It took a while, the first 17 and 1/2 minutes, in fact, for the two presenters to get to the main point :rolleyes:, i.e. exactly how Wake intends to reallocate space on the Reynolda campus to create more classrooms, faculty offices and other academic space (such as group study rooms). So you can advance the video to the 17:30 mark to hear their description of the actual plan. It's not exactly scintillating stuff.

Gillespie and Travisano did the best they could in presenting a plan that meets the minimum needs for more academic space, but it seems clear that everyone would have been happier to hear about a brand new $100M "Academic Commons" building to be built on Davis Field. But that plan from 2019 was officially declared dead in 2022.
 
The Winston Salem Journal published an article in March about the proposed development. The graphic contains a few details that I haven't seen before.

The pedestrian crossing where University and Cherry St. separate is OK, but it seems based on an overly optimistic belief that students would consider walking from campus to Wake's athletic complex.
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CaptRenault said:
The Winston Salem Journal published an article in March about the proposed development. The graphic contains a few details that I haven't seen before.

The pedestrian crossing where University and Cherry St. separate is OK, but it seems based on an overly optimistic belief that students would consider walking from campus to Wake's athletic complex.
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I see students walking to/from football and basketball frequently. Not a ton of students, but a decent number. I think making it easier to cross University is a great idea, especially if it is bike/scooter/etc friendly.
 
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