wakephan09
fuck duke
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maybe they fell victim to the murder holeArkansas State literally beat themselves?
maybe they fell victim to the murder holeArkansas State literally beat themselves?
I try to lean optimistic but also realistic. I played several years of team golf and still play some semi-competitive team golf. People can certainly play bad on tough holes without choking, so maybe that's too strong. Obviously, none of us can tell if the pressure of qualifying for nationals on the back 9 had a significant impact in the poor(er) performance.it's not about semantics; it's about perspective
try the positive outlook some time. It makes life so much more pleasant!
All good points, and I want to be clear that my response was directed not only to you. Obviously our collective message board vibes have absolutely no effect on what happens on the course or the court or the field or whatever, but I find baffling the expectations of some of our fans that if we don't win every single competition every year we have choked or failed.I try to lean optimistic but also realistic. I played several years of team golf and still play some semi-competitive team golf. People can certainly play bad on tough holes without choking, so maybe that's too strong. Obviously, none of us can tell if the pressure of qualifying for nationals on the back 9 had a significant impact in the poor(er) performance.
So we'll just be excited of the clutch performance in the playoff and hope the team shocks the world in AZ.
You mean besides the long pants??All good points, and I want to be clear that my response was directed not only to you. Obviously our collective message board vibes have absolutely no effect on what happens on the course or the court or the field or whatever, but I find baffling the expectations of some of our fans that if we don't win every single competition every year we have choked or failed.
You also make a good point about the necessary role of pressure in choking. Pressure comes from all sorts of places and for various reasons and can be mitigated by things like coaching, preparation, and talent. Seems like having one but not all of these sets the stage for a devastating choke
I think I'm more amenable to arguments from specificity than "wake always chokes". With your background in golf, can you speculate why wake golf has struggled historically in certain competitions? Like conference tournaments versus regionals or nationals?
Like, in a cross country, I know for certain one reason wake was for a number of years competitive in the conference and then bombed at regionals and nationals was because the training program was focused on racing 8k. In ncaa xc, men race 8k all season long and then switch for regionals and nationals to 10k. So it made sense that other elite programs started the season slowly and peaked at the right competitions while wake seemed to choke when it mattered
Yep. That narrative is dumb, which is what I pointed out. Every message board, for every team, in every sport thinks their team chokes. Duke bball, Alabama football, etc. So to comment "pulling a Wake" when we won a playoff, following a weekend of over-achieving in all sports we participated in, seemed extra dumb.yes, the woe is us narrative is annoying and, frankly, dumb
but the inevitability of a rafi defense of [wake, the acc, the athletic department] is also hilarious
Yep. I came so close to putting that at the very end of my post.Counterpoint: Fuck Duke
God’s truth for us Deacon fans.Fans always think their team chokes. Would guess BYU fans feel like their team choked. Every ranked team that failed to make the NCAAs yesterday felt like their team choked. Sports are hard. At the end, there is one winner, and everyone else walks away with at least some level of disappointment.
But if we don't win each and every one of these championship competitions then we must have CHOKEDI mean, we've got our Men's Tennis Team in the Final Four, we're top ten in baseball, our women's golf team is one of the favorites to win the title at the NCAA Champs, and our men's team qualified for their 4th straight NCAA Champs.
It could be worse.
when it has been like 20+ years for certain sports then yea its a choke.But if we don't win each and every one of these championship competitions then we must have CHOKED
Status?NCAA Championships have started.
The WF Women are paired with #1 Stanford and #3 S. Carolina. First tee time is noon (PDT).
The Deacs order of players
Brooke Rivers
Mimi Rhodes
Carolina Lopez-Chacarra
Macy Pate
Rachel Kuehn
Choking (currently T19) but plenty of time to move up.Status?
Currently 11 back. Still in it.
Top 8 after 4 rounds. Must be too 15 after 3 rounds, but if you’re in 15th place obviously you are extremely unlikely to make it into the top 8 on day 4.What’s the cut line for match play?