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my convo with tyler cavanaugh.

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Him and his family came into Mac Grill last night, (his dad is at least 7 foot tall btw), and I got a chance to talk to tyler while watching the end of the Wichita St. v. Ohio St. game. His family are all great people and it was fun talking basketball with them. Anyways, after the game I decided to approach tyler and tell him that just because most Wake fans are buzzout, some more adamant than others, it doesn't reflect our feelings towards the players and organization as a whole in the least bit and that no matter who the coach was we are proud of them and support them 100%.

His response was a small smile, and he said something like, "yeah, well if we finished every game strong we would have been above .500 and maybe even in the tourney. and we're all young and aren't good on the road. we're just gonna keep working hard and looking forward to a great season next year."

I agreed with his stance on how this season could have easily been a success, brought up Va Tech, BC, GT, Duke, Seton Hall, Uconn etc.. Then he continued, "and about all of the negative stuff about coach, the only thing that bothers the players is we just find it weird that some people are crazy enough to devote so much time, energy, and money to ruining a man's career. there's just some crazy people in that group"

I bit my tongue hard on that one, what I wanted to say was, "that snotty nosed cunt is ruining his own god damned career, and if he devoted as much energy and passion towards wake basketball as we do trying to get him canned then we would have been in the fucking tournament this year."

But I just went with, "well you know how people are when they love something..." He agreed and shrugged his shoulders, and continued again, "they have been having people meet with us the past few weeks and talk about all of the anti jeff and anti ron stuff thats been all over the news. and they've just been telling us to ignore it, that its not worth the distraction or wasted time worrying about it."

After hearing that I immediately wanted to delve into that more, but realized it wasn't the proper time or place to begin a full on investigation into what sounded like brainwashing (i mean really? PEOPLE have been meeting with you? who? when? where? was jeff or ron there?). So I thanked him for his business, reaffirmed my support for him and his teammates, and left the table.
 
"He and his family", please.

Very interesting info. I'm not surprised, of course.
 
It's necessary for kids to stay positive. No question about that. I'm glad he has that attitude.

Of course, the idea that they would have made the tournament if they had only won all the close games is wrong.

We only lost 6 games by single digits.

Count those as wins and we are 19-12 (9-9). That is well out of NCAA consideration probably solid NIT. That's if we won every game we lost by single digits.

This coach and players are a long way from NCAA contention.
 
Lulz. Yep, we were just a couple bounces of the ball away from being in the Big Dance!
 
Lulz. Yep, we were just a couple bounces of the ball away from being in the Big Dance!
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LOL, we weren't even close to NCAA tournament contention, Cav. Not even close.
 
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Don't forget that Ron thinks the UMD game in Winston was one of our best. We were TIED with eight minutes to go people! Who could ask for more?
 
"He and his family", please.

Very interesting info. I'm not surprised, of course.

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LOL, we weren't even close to NCAA tournament contention, Cav. Not even close.

Yep. The Wellman/Bz loser mentality is being spread to our players.
 
"If we'd only won a few more games, such as the ones against *list of 8+ teams*"
 

You thought it was interesting enough to tell all of us about it, and I told you it was an interesting story. So what the fuck is your problem now that you don't give a fuck?
 
Cav's comments seem to be a touch too mature to join in the discourse here.
 
You thought it was interesting enough to tell all of us about it, and I told you it was an interesting story. So what the fuck is your problem now that you don't give a fuck?

the grammar correction, son. should have only quoted that. sorry for the confusion professor.
 
the grammar correction, son. should have only quoted that. sorry for the confusion professor.

Isn't it time for you to go clean up the salad bar or something?
 
Maybe his dad can teach him some post moves. But then again, his dad probably ran point standing 6 foot 9 inches in HS.
 
Cav's comments seem to be a touch too mature to join in the discourse here.

Seems like a good young man. But it is frustrating that he and the athletic department characterize everything as about ruining someone's career (isn't it a job he's supposed to earn anyway?). Can't it be interpreted that we care deeply about the future of our alma mater, that they represent? The spin doctors have successfully muted that point of view. It's all being seen from their perspective as the lunatic fringe.

At least many in the media have been describing us as a "small, very loyal fanbase," who have rationale, common sense, and facts on our side to make the argument for a change of course.
 
Cav seems to think that this is all happening in a vacuum. Wrong. If [Redacted] had been even somewhat competent, he would have the support of ~50% of our fanbase. (We are LOWF, remember!). No one is trying to "ruin a man's career." He has done that to himself by his results. We simply are saying, we will no longer accecpt this Bullshit and will not continue to pay for it.

He and Wellman have put themselves in this position by their numbers/lack of achievement. What is staggering to me is how anyone....ANYONE...could continue to support this guy based on his current record, past record, history, age, projections, etc. It truly is mind boggling.
 
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