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Anyone who says Clinton is the one who started and proliferated the "birther" movement is an absolute idiot. No question about it. Especially if that person is also ignoring the fact that Trump, to this day, has not said himself that he believes Obama is a citizen. No way around it, absolute idiocy going on right now and this is why Trump even has a chance: the American public is largely full of morons.

He's not saying she started it. He's saying she attempted to use it in her primary campaign in 2008, which isn't even remotely surprising. Win at all costs.
 
Hillary's support continues to slip away. I lnow that's deplorable and less important than what you posted but maybe you should give it a thought.

This is the Trump thread. For silly things about Trump. Poll panic seems to be going on in the General Election thread. I try not to participate in poll panic. I mean, look at this, it was like a roller coaster!

2012 Polls

Not good for stress levels.
 
He's not saying she started it. He's saying she attempted to use it in her primary campaign in 2008, which isn't even remotely surprising. Win at all costs.

He literally just said this:

"Hillary brought it up during her campaign, it was 2008, and it was brought up to a fare thee well and she brought it up and I was the one that was successful in getting him to release his birth certificate. She is the one that started it and she was unable, or incapable, of finishing it – that’s the way it worked out"
 
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He literally just said this:

"Hillary brought it up during her campaign, it was 2008, and it was brought up to a fare thee well and she brought it up and I was the one that was successful in getting him to release his birth certificate. She is the one that started it and she was unable, or incapable, of finishing it – that’s the way it worked out"

Was insane to go anywhere near the birthers in the first place, but took him five years to admit it was total BS. Pence was also a spineless weasel for refusing to call David duke deplorable. Cruz is a liar, but Trump has zero high ground to stand on lying relative to anyone. Clinton campaign should pepper Trump with questions about his most egregious lies every chance they get.

Weird thing about the birthers is that the prior standard bearer, Orly Taitz, was some wingnut who ran statewide in CA twice and made it the centerpiece of her campaign botGot ~ 30% of the vote in a GOP primary. Second time, she ran CA had top two primaries irrespective of party and she got 3% of the vote. Been a nutcase fringe issue for years, but Trump refused until today to refute it.
 
He literally just said this:

"Hillary brought it up during her campaign, it was 2008, and it was brought up to a fare thee well and she brought it up and I was the one that was successful in getting him to release his birth certificate. She is the one that started it and she was unable, or incapable, of finishing it – that’s the way it worked out"

This is what the former Washington Bureau Chief for McClatchy said in response to Hillary trying to make an issue of this:
 
Sounds like Hillary wanted someone to investigate a new rumor about her relatively unknown primary foe.

That's much different than spreading already debunked rumors about the President of the United States.
 
Sounds like Hillary wanted someone to investigate a new rumor about her relatively unknown primary foe.

That's much different than spreading already debunked rumors about the President of the United States.

Holy shit. You cannot be in this much denial.
 
you can't be that much of a conspiracy theorist, can you?
You think the former Washington bureau chief for McClatchy is making it up, peddling a conspiracy? What evidence do you have he's lying? I can point to quite a bit of evidence that the Clinton campaign were peddling rumors about Obama. Congrats for also being in denial.
 
Holy shit. You cannot be in this much denial.

I read the words in the tweet you posted. In 2008, an aid to Hillary asked an investigative journalist to investigate the rumor that Barack Obama was born outside the US. You had a different take?
 
You think the former Washington bureau chief for McClatchy is making it up, peddling a conspiracy? What evidence do you have he's lying? I can point to quite a bit of evidence that the Clinton campaign were peddling rumors about Obama.

I didn't say he was lying, i'm saying he's putting out info and trying to give it spin that's not there.

If you were a candidate in 2008 and a rumor popped up, you wouldn't ask your staff to check into it? You're being ridiculous and a trumpshill
 
Says the guy convinced Trump is the best

I know it hurts to admit the Clinton folks were instrumental in spreading the birther bullshit but why don't you go ahead and admit it and quit being in denial. The truth shall set you free.
 
I didn't say he was lying, i'm saying he's putting out info and trying to give it spin that's not there.

If you were a candidate in 2008 and a rumor popped up, you wouldn't ask your staff to check into it? You're being ridiculous and a trumpshill

Oh, just like Blumenthal peddled the Obama in African garb pic. There was nothing nefarious about that either was there? You're a complete joke.
 
I know it hurts to admit the Clinton folks were instrumental in spreading the birther bullshit but why don't you go ahead and admit it and quit being in denial. The truth shall set you free.

Find us one news clip or article from the 2008 that supports this claim...not a tweet 8 years later. In order for them to be "spreading the birther bullshit", as you say, there would be clips or articles with Clinton or Clinton surrogates opening calling for private eyes to go to Hawaii to figure out what's going on. So find those clips.
 
false equivalence. Because Sidney Blumenthal asked a reporter to investigate a rumor 8 years ago, it is the same as Trump making birtherism a cottage industry and never actually backing off if it to this day.
 
why would she want to do that?

And why would the same folks peddling the birther story also peddle this picture?
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Hillary's support "slipping away" is the product of other voters making their choices/preferences for someone else. What Avalon posted are events that actually occurred yesterday that she finds interesting as a voter herself.

Sailor, you've absolutely just lost it the past 8 months or so. It's sad. Maybe BSF4L will drop by to tell you what he tells the "hill-shills," stop trying to tell people what to do.

I am really touched by your concern for me and my posts. Thanks but don't be sad for me. You have much more serious issues to be sad about.
 
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