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Virginia Tech vs. Wake Forest Game Thread - 6:30 ESPNU

Players can have bad nights shooting the ball, but there is no excuse for having bad nights defensively. Defense requires effort, more than anything else....because it's not glamorous, like scoring on offense. Defense is grunt work....but that's what often wins games. And it can be taught, because D1 level players should have the physical abilities to play defense.
Yep, as long as you have the athletisism (which we do) defense is coaching, getting kids to buy in, and effort. Danny has failed at all three of those things.
 
Thankfully this shit is almost over for another year. What has happened to us?
 
Meanwhile Mannning let multiple players that could have contributed significantly to this years team leave town and they are now excelling elsewhere.

If they hadn't left, we couldn't have signed our 3 freshmen. None of the guys who left was worth a crap at WFU.
 
i guess i just keep hoping that manning has some sort of 5-year plan that he's keeping to himself - as in he knows his team is hot garbage, but he's going to be stubborn about his method (substitution patterns, placing too much emphasis on practice effort) even if it means winning fewer games than he could in the short-term. of course, it's a fine line, so if we're no better in year 3 then it means he just sucks.

and i can't get over the fact that, in a game dominated by them, we have one guard - one - and he's a freshman who makes as many bone-headed plays as brilliant ones. cmm's limited skillset notwithstanding, he would have been another one if his senior year were more like his junior, but that didn't happen because of injury/confidence/whatever. oh, and we have no wing players that deserve more than spot minutes - none.
 
If they hadn't left, we couldn't have signed our 3 freshmen. None of the guys who left was worth a crap at WFU.

Judging by how they are doing now, I'm not sure that was all their fault.

Bzzdelik & Manning are two of the worst coaches in ACC history.
 
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Clawson is stubborn about his method but it has worked before. Manning doesn't have that legitimacy.
 
For what it's worth from the game: 18 turnovers, poor defense, poor free throw shooting, little or no emotion by the players and even worse, from DM. Prediction for next year: much the same if not worse with the proverbial young team. Maybe one ACC win and no away wins at other ACC schools...maybe next year I will stick to last years resolution not to buy season tickets.
 
Two more games (losses) and all the players from the Bzaster era will be gone.....

A decade will be wasted by the time we ever make any postseason tourney- but the frosh nucleus is encouraging.
 
For what it's worth from the game: 18 turnovers, poor defense, poor free throw shooting, little or no emotion by the players and even worse, from DM. Prediction for next year: much the same if not worse with the proverbial young team. Maybe one ACC win and no away wins at other ACC schools...maybe next year I will stick to last years resolution not to buy season tickets.

Another silver lining: Money saved on not buying season tickets again next season
 
Adam Smith ‏@adam_smithTN 2m2 minutes ago
"I think it's say to safe that we're used to disappointment. It's just another disappointing outcome to add on to the list." -- Devin Thomas
 
Didn't watch a second of this game, didn't actually know it was on, but, man, did not think at Thanksgiving we'd be going 2-16 in the ACC and losing home games to VT. What a shit season.
 
reading the sports board weeds out the idiots even more than the politics board
 
Didn't watch a second of this game, didn't actually know it was on, but, man, did not think at Thanksgiving we'd be going 2-16 in the ACC and losing home games to VT. What a shit season.

Considering the situation at the time the ACC season began....9-3 with away wins over Indiana, UCLA & LSU....could this 2-16 ACC season be the worst ACC season in WF history? You have Staak's 0-14 in 1986 & Buzz' 1-15 in 2010......but neither of those ACC seasons began after a pre-ACC season like this year. Neither of those other two teams were expected to do anything going into ACC play.
 
Adam Smith ‏@adam_smithTN 2m2 minutes ago
"I think it's say to safe that we're used to disappointment. It's just another disappointing outcome to add on to the list." -- Devin Thomas

He speaks for all of us.
 
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