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2016 Panthers Thread: MOVING ON

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GMan claimed some rando TE off waivers from the Saints and waived CB Lou Young.
 
CDeacMan said:
The Panthers will rip off wins at the end of the season after we're already out of it. It's what basically happened two years ago, it's just the rest of the division was so atrocious we still made the playoffs.
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Yeah especially when some of the guys get near the close of the season and realize it's not just Gman that won't pay them the way they're performing
 
Interesting potential 2017 free agent targets: Honey Badger, Stephon Gilmore, Desmond Trufant, Eric Berry, Alshon Jeffrey (has said he wants to play with Cam/in Carolina), and a bunch of OL. It's actually quite a good year to need OL help.

Also, I've been saying this for years, but I would kill to have a true slot WR on this team to help Cam. Hell, look at what Cole Beasley is doing in Dallas. This is a random thought, but if Ryan Switzer from UNC falls to the 4th/5th round next year, I'd love to take a chance on him. True slot WR, and potentially dynamic PR.
 
tigerswood said:
Interesting potential 2017 free agent targets: Honey Badger, Stephon Gilmore, Desmond Trufant, Eric Berry, Alshon Jeffrey (has said he wants to play with Cam/in Carolina), and a bunch of OL. It's actually quite a good year to need OL help.

Also, I've been saying this for years, but I would kill to have a true slot WR on this team to help Cam. Hell, look at what Cole Beasley is doing in Dallas. This is a random thought, but if Ryan Switzer from UNC falls to the 4th/5th round next year, I'd love to take a chance on him. True slot WR, and potentially dynamic PR.
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His fiance hooked up with my brother. I have no idea if that's good or bad for the team though
 
I thought Eric Berry was a FA this past offseason? I don't see Gman spending market money on Alshon Jeffrey with Benjamin and the Funchise already under contract.

I assume Campanaro will be cut with an injury settlement if he hasn't been already. He could work in the slot if he were ever to stay healthy.
 
2&2 Slider To Leyritz said:
I thought Eric Berry was a FA this past offseason? I don't see Gman spending market money on Alshon Jeffrey with Benjamin and the Funchise already under contract.

I assume Campanaro will be cut with an injury settlement if he hasn't been already. He could work in the slot if he were ever to stay healthy.
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He was. One year contract.

I would be fine giving Camp a shot. Although he'd probably have to take Bersin's roster spot, which we know will never happen.
 
Beason gives his thoughts.

But Beason was much harsher in ripping Gettleman for blowing up the current team’s secondary and, in so doing, their chances of returning to the Super Bowl.

“You were primed to win. You’re not in the rebuild stage,” Beason said Thursday in a telephone interview. “It’s unacceptable. At some point you say, well maybe you roll the dice. But it didn’t add up to a competitive season.”

...“Every single player that gets franchise-tagged does not want to be tagged. And when you allow a guy to walk out of the building for nothing and you rescind the franchise tag, it doesn’t happen,” Beason said. “I don’t care how disgruntled a player is. You tag them, they don’t show up during the offseason. Guess what, when it comes time for camp, they’re there. You have their services. Because that’s the business part of it. But if you don’t think he’s worth the money or whatever, and let him walk out, address it in free agency. Address it in the draft early. Get some value for him. And then don’t go out there with guys who have no experience.”

...“I just feel like in that situation management has kind of left them out to dry."

..."“A team with two MVPs on it?” he said, referring to Newton and Kuechly. “I think you’d be hard-pressed to find another team not doing so well with those caliber of players on the team.”

He’d like to see the Panthers turn things around, but doesn’t sound optimistic.

“Those are my guys, man. I want to see them do well,” Beason said. “It’s hard. It’s hard to watch.”
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http://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/nfl/carolina-panthers/article109508097.html#storylink=cpy
 
Does anyone want to keep Gettleman around at this point? I understand he's had a lot of "magic" in the past, but he has almost single-handedly destroyed a season with what should have been a championship-contending team in the prime of two MVPs' careers.

If this type of roster mismanagement doesn't get a GM fired, then I'm not sure what does, other than sleeping with the owner's wife.
 
Gettleman seems to be the type of dude who has his philosophy and sticks to it no matter what. It had worked up until this season, although arguably the same thing happened from 2013 to 2014 but we just happened to turn it around late in the season to still make the playoffs. I can appreciate never wanting to overextend and overpay guys who aren't going to make a team championship caliber or would require being too frugal in other areas, but if he was ever going to flip his philosophy and pay some dudes and go all in - this seems like it would have been the year. Tag Josh, sign another veteran corner or safety, maybe try to make a splash somewhere else we are weaker like DE or OT and then draft BPAs. Elway went all in last year and got the title. It may fall apart in Denver in a year or two, but no one will fault the GM when you win the whole deal.

I'm not ready to can Gettleman, but hopefully he learns from this.
 
And this season has just been a perfect storm of things going wrong and not all of them are Gettleman's fault. Gano getting the yips has cost us a couple of games, many more injuries to important players than we dealt with last year (Cam, Stew, Oher, the rookie corner who was playing well), a pretty brutal early schedule. And even with all of that we still barely lost most of the games. A play or call or bounce here and there and this team is easily better than 1-5 and might have as many as 3 or even 4 more wins.
 
The "pretty brutal" early schedule isn't really so, at least at the start of the season.

Denver: ok, tough
SF: Nope
Minny: we all wanted them to beat Seattle in the playoffs last season, and with Bradford and no AP I don't think anyone expected them to be that good coming into the game
ATL: surprising everyone, looked easy before the season started
Tampa: Not good last year, not good this year
NO: Not good last year, not good this year
 
DEN/SF/MIN/ATL was waaaaaay tougher than I thought it would be myself
 
BarcaDeac said:
The "pretty brutal" early schedule isn't really so, at least at the start of the season.

Denver: ok, tough
SF: Nope
Minny: we all wanted them to beat Seattle in the playoffs last season, and with Bradford and no AP I don't think anyone expected them to be that good coming into the game
ATL: surprising everyone, looked easy before the season started
Tampa: Not good last year, not good this year
NO: Not good last year, not good this year
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ATL and NO are still divisional road games. Always difficult.
 
CDeacMan said:
Gettleman seems to be the type of dude who has his philosophy and sticks to it no matter what. It had worked up until this season, although arguably the same thing happened from 2013 to 2014 but we just happened to turn it around late in the season to still make the playoffs. I can appreciate never wanting to overextend and overpay guys who aren't going to make a team championship caliber or would require being too frugal in other areas, but if he was ever going to flip his philosophy and pay some dudes and go all in - this seems like it would have been the year. Tag Josh, sign another veteran corner or safety, maybe try to make a splash somewhere else we are weaker like DE or OT and then draft BPAs. Elway went all in last year and got the title. It may fall apart in Denver in a year or two, but no one will fault the GM when you win the whole deal.

I'm not ready to can Gettleman, but hopefully he learns from this.
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You are assuming some humility with Dave Gettleman, and that doesn't really exist.
 
I still maintain the belief that if Gano hits that FG vs. Denver that this is a completely different season.
 
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