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Retired US Soccer / World Cup Thread (RIP)

I will say that I was impressed by how the U-20 team played in the '15 tournament. Showed a control of the game that the USMNT has rarely shown
 
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He walked those comments back very recently, and I think they were taken out of context. Not a Bruce apologist, but I don't think he's a xenophobe.
 
It's not xenophobic at all. It's completely true. We need to be able to look around the states and find American born players who grew up in American schools and training to make up the bulk of our team. Otherwise, we're not making progress as a soccer nation.
 
Arena also played several players born in other countries

Mastroeni and Feilhaber off the top of my head.

And I agree with Biff. He's no Abby Wambach.
 
Bruce sucks. Glad a change was made, but this is pretty disappointing. Funny Sunil let him go years ago by saying we need a fresh start and he ends up being rehashed now. He has an eye for young talent, but his managing is pretty meh. Safe bet to avoid further WC qualifying hiccups I guess.
 
Big Sam won West Ham promotion to the prem


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Dude's the best American manager of all time and it's not even close.




Not that that's saying much
 
It's not xenophobic at all. It's completely true. We need to be able to look around the states and find American born players who grew up in American schools and training to make up the bulk of our team. Otherwise, we're not making progress as a soccer nation.

I don't understand this at all. Why do we have to play American-born players in order to progress as a soccer nation? The progression needs to come first and will hopefully get us to the point where we have lots of talented American-born players. But adopting an American-born only rule right now doesn't do anything to get us to that point.

Also it's just stupid from an international soccer standpoint. Even major soccer powers use foreign-born or naturalized citizens. See: Germany (Klose and Podolski), Spain (Diego Costa), etc. You play the best players who are eligible, and if those guys are born abroad, you do your best to recruit them.
 
I don't understand this at all. Why do we have to play American-born players in order to progress as a soccer nation? The progression needs to come first and will hopefully get us to the point where we have lots of talented American-born players. But adopting an American-born only rule right now doesn't do anything to get us to that point.

Also it's just stupid from an international soccer standpoint. Even major soccer powers use foreign-born or naturalized citizens. See: Germany (Klose and Podolski), Spain (Diego Costa), etc. You play the best players who are eligible, and if those guys are born abroad, you do your best to recruit them.

True.

I don't think Arena is a xenophobe, but I wish he'd not made that dumb statement as I think (as responses here show) he ultimately realized it would be taken out of context. We can aspire to having such a huge pool of talent that we don't need to constantly be on the lookout for talent developed overseas while at the same time acknowledging that anyone with American blood is as American as any of us. Right?
 
I don't understand this at all. Why do we have to play American-born players in order to progress as a soccer nation? The progression needs to come first and will hopefully get us to the point where we have lots of talented American-born players. But adopting an American-born only rule right now doesn't do anything to get us to that point.

Also it's just stupid from an international soccer standpoint. Even major soccer powers use foreign-born or naturalized citizens. See: Germany (Klose and Podolski), Spain (Diego Costa), etc. You play the best players who are eligible, and if those guys are born abroad, you do your best to recruit them.

My God. I agree with Mystery.

No ones suggested an American born only rule

What tintin said. I said that if we aren't playing more American-born players we're not progressing. I'm fine with the current makeup of the team, at face value, as it represents the best players we can put on the field. I think we should continue to do that going forward. When the best players we can put on the field are born and raised and trained on American soil, that's real progress.

And you make the point that 2 of Germany's top 30 players are foreign born. That would be great if it were true of the US.
 
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