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Rogue One: A Star Wars Story (SPOILERS)

DeacHead said:
Just to report my thoughts - if the movie is indeed mostly fan service, well, I'm a fan, so I was serviced and really enjoyed it.

Any thoughts I had, good or bad, have been expressed upthread many times and I won't list a litany of nit picks, but just one that really stuck in my craw - punny Vader. "Don't choke on your ambitions" made me groan. That's not his style, he's not James Bond.
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That's usually how it goes when the DeacHead is serviced.
 
That last scene with Vader though.....

I'd pay the price of admission to see that clip over and over. Epic.
 
Also, what does everyone think the original ending was before the reshoots? That'd be a cool Star Wars nugget to own, a copy of the first version of Rogue One.
 
i think the ending was the same unless someone defects to the dark side. the middle was probably way darker and about how dirty the rebels really have to get to survive against the empire. I think the ambush in Jedha by Saw Gerrara's men was a taste
 
there was a scene in the trailer where she was on top of the satellite tower walking towards a TIE Fighter hovering there, but in the movie it was walking over to a control panel to reposition the dish
 
Buckwild said:
Also, what does everyone think the original ending was before the reshoots? That'd be a cool Star Wars nugget to own, a copy of the first version of Rogue One.
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http://uproxx.com/movies/rogue-one-ending-star-wars/
According to io9, which managed to transcribe portions of Edwards’ Empire interview before it was taken down, the unfilmed ending didn’t kill off all of the main characters:
“The very first version, they didn’t. In the screenplay. And it was just assumed by us that we couldn’t do that. ‘They’re not going to let us do that.’ So I was trying to figure out how this ends where that doesn’t happen. And then everyone read that and there was this feeling of like, ‘They’ve got to die, right?’ And everyone was like, ‘Yeah, can we?'”
“We thought we weren’t going to be allowed to but Kathy [Kennedy, President of Lucasfilm] and everyone at Disney were like ‘Yeah it makes sense. I guess they have to because they’re not in A New Hope.’ And so from that point on we had the license.”
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While this apparently more uplifting ending was never filmed, large swathes of an otherwise different third act were staged during the production. One of the more prominent unused sequences included additional scenes from the beach assault, in which Jyn Erso (equipped with the stolen harddrive), Cassian Andor and K-2SO race across the sand with their fellow rebel troops.

Also, Felicity Jones has a two film deal. Some thoughts:
http://uproxx.com/movies/star-wars-jyn-erso-sequel/

But first, let’s assume Jyn Erso did die on that Eadu beach, cradling her not-love-interest Cassian Andor. Audiences are first introduced to her character on the prison world of Wobani at an Imperial labor camp. Forging Imperial documents, possession of stolen property, resisting arrest, and aggravated assault on all on Jyn’s list of crimes as read out by the Alliance. Not exactly small peanuts, as far as rebellion goes. While a memorable line from the trailer — “This is a rebellion isn’t it? I rebel” — was removed and Jyn’s aggressive and undisciplined nature expunged from the final cut, hints to Jyn’s past remain. Why would she forge Imperial documents? Whom did she commit assault? And which of her myriad of crimes landed her on Wobani?
All of these questions could be answered as a subplot within the young Han Solo movie scheduled for release in 2018. The film stars Alden Ehrenreich as young Han, and the ages of both Solo and Erso line up. Jyn’s distaste for both the Empire and the Alliance would lend itself well to a life of smuggling with a scoundrel. And considering how much Lucasfilm hates a coincidence, it is 100% like the company to tie Erso eve more tightly to the original trilogy characters via a run-in with Han Solo. It could even be that scruffy-looking nerf herder’s fault Jyn found herself thrown into Imperial prison. After all, he’s known to drop cargo at the slightest sign of the Empire. Should Disney opt to utilize Felicity Jones’ contractual obligation, this is one of the most straight-forwarded approaches and leaves little room for fan ire.
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There are a LOT of differences between what we saw in trailers vs the movies. We never heard "I rebel". Forrest Whittaker was bald in trailers and had Reggie Watts hair in the movie. The list goes on.
 
The young Han Solo stuff should be about 5-10 years before the original trilogy, one would think (or hope). I mean, it isn't going to look like Han from ANH, so at least go back a few years with it so we can accept that he may look a little different. Jyn in Rogue One was 15 years apart from where she was at the beginning of the movie and she looks to be 10 at the most at the beginning (probably more like 5-6). So depending on how far back they go with Han, we'll have to keep that in mind. Given that scenario, I don't want to see her in the Solo movie.
 
EatLeadCommie said:
The young Han Solo stuff should be about 5-10 years before the original trilogy, one would think (or hope). I mean, it isn't going to look like Han from ANH, so at least go back a few years with it so we can accept that he may look a little different. Jyn in Rogue One was 15 years apart from where she was at the beginning of the movie and she looks to be 10 at the most at the beginning (probably more like 5-6). So depending on how far back they go with Han, we'll have to keep that in mind. Given that scenario, I don't want to see her in the Solo movie.
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I think Jyn in Rogue one isn't much younger than Han in AHN. At least I don't see any reason not to think that.

Here is a recut trailer from scenes in the trailers but not in the film. It's a lot.
http://uproxx.com/movies/rogue-one-scenes-in-trailers-but-not-movie/
 
DeacHead said:
There are a LOT of differences between what we saw in trailers vs the movies. We never heard "I rebel". Forrest Whittaker was bald in trailers and had Reggie Watts hair in the movie. The list goes on.
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I think the bald Whittaker scenes were cut from when Jyn was little and he was training her
 
So, if we see R2 and C3PO at yavin when the rest of the fleet leaves for Scarif, when do they join up with leia?
 
Yeah. It would have taken away from the ending if they showed up on Leia's ship.
 
The movie was great.

phan09 - I was IN once I saw the blue milk. Their opening home had many similarities to Luke's on Tatooine. And speaking of, the desert city that gets wrecked had a Mos Eisley vibe. Of course, there was lots of conspicuous allusion throughout.

On Tarkin and Leia: Obvious CGI is obvious, and that's what makes it bothersome; you're thinking about it instead of focusing on what's going on.

I thought the planet rings were really fucking cool. It was an awesome realization and visual reference point.

If I could point to one main beef, it was the soundtrack. It felt clunky at times and didn't draw on John Williams's themes nearly as much as they could've IMO. Why go big reproducing details with everything else and then lightly scratch the surface with some of the most recognizable (and awesome) aspects of the original movies?
 
Deacfreak07 said:
I liked how the showed the rebels as more flawed than in the original trilogy. After all, they are essentially terrorists depending on your perspective.
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Well said. Cassian, in particular, developed a ton of depth throughout the film in this regard.
 
HailToTheDeacons said:
The movie was great.

phan09 - I was IN once I saw the blue milk. Their opening home had many similarities to Luke's on Tatooine. And speaking of, the desert city that gets wrecked had a Mos Eisley vibe. Of course, there was lots of conspicuous allusion throughout.

On Tarkin and Leia: Obvious CGI is obvious, and that's what makes it bothersome; you're thinking about it instead of focusing on what's going on.

I thought the planet rings were really fucking cool. It was an awesome realization and visual reference point.

If I could point to one main beef, it was the soundtrack. It felt clunky at times and didn't draw on John Williams's themes nearly as much as they could've IMO. Why go big reproducing details with everything else and then lightly scratch the surface with some of the most recognizable (and awesome) aspects of the original movies?
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John Williams hasn't recaptured his original magic over the last 5 movies except for Duel of the Fates, easily the best thing to come out of the prequels.
 
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