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Saudi World Golf Tour 2022/2023 Thread

I looked at a flyover of some holes at Erin Hills. Really a visually interesting course with lots of bunkers, contouring, and once you get a few yards off the fairway, you're in foot deep fescue. Kevin Na has already complained about the fescue. It's 7700 yards long, so I'm assuming it favors longer hitters and solid ball strikers. What are others' thoughts on the venue?
 
Erin Hills looks gorgeous. First Par 72 US Open Course in 25 years. While it depends on where they put the tees, the course could play over 7700 yards which would be the longest US Open course.
 
The fescue looks pretty ridiculous, although I have heard Erin Hills has the widest fairways in US Open history so maybe if you miss them continuously you deserve the punishment. Really enjoy a new venue every once in a while and I also enjoy when the winner is around even par. I know a lot of people disagree but I think for one week a year it is a fair and fun championship.
 
I don't think the length will be as much of a factor as people think as long as the course stays relatively dry. Lots of run out in these fairways. As with almost all Opens it will come down to keeping it in the fairway and making 6 footers for par. I only hope Mike Davis doesn't get cute like he has in year's past and he keeps the set-up straight forward for the players.
 
Sleepy, are you running the golf game? If not can you post the numbers (wherever you get them from) so someone else can?
 
Les Grossman said:
I don't think the length will be as much of a factor as people think as long as the course stays relatively dry. Lots of run out in these fairways. As with almost all Opens it will come down to keeping it in the fairway and making 6 footers for par. I only hope Mike Davis doesn't get cute like he has in year's past and he keeps the set-up straight forward for the players.
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I'va considered Mike Davis an upgrade over whoever did it previously. Before he came on the scene, we had the disaster at Shinnecock, the 18th back pin at Olympic and generally tight fairways with yuge rough. He's introduced the graduated rough concept and has had nice set-ups. His only faux pas was the hot dry spell that killed the fescue greens in Tacoma. You could argue the conditions were too easy at Congressional, but that was totally weather related. They didn't have lush rough because a lack of rain and a hot, dry spell leading up to Open week and then got drenched that week so that the greens were unusually receptive. He and the crew also did a fantastic job at Merion providing for a difficult enough set-up (many thought scores would be too low) and keeping the course playable considering all the rain they had there. He also wasn't involved in the stupid DJ ruling last year - that was 2 other USGA pinheads.
 
So damn happy for Brooks. Such a nice guy who's busted his ass to get to this point.
 
Buck with the unintentional burn. Ouch.
 
Haha, from the No Laying Up twitter feed:

Say what you want about CBS, there's zero chance Nantz would have gotten Koepka's girlfriend's name wrong
 
Koepka played great in tougher, windy conditions while everyone else was treading water or slid back. He's had the game for the last couple of years, so nice to see him pull it out so decisively. And a really strong week from Bill. The other interesting contender to me is Fleetwood. After disappearing for a while, he's been 1 of the best golfers on the Euro tour in the last year - seems like a good guy too. Lastly, another unimpressive major final round for Fowler.

As for Fox, Buck is atrocious, and there were on air flubs - which is more likely to happen when you have a network who only does this once a year. But at least Norman is gone, and Strange, Zinger, Clarke and Hanse are fine, and it's nice to get the expanded coverage. If they'd just get a new play by play person, the coverage would be better.
 
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DeacWatcher said:
FOX coverage for this has thoroughly sucked.
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I disagree. The expanded use of shot tracker is awesome and I thought Buck, Azinger, Clark and Strange were pretty good. I like Faxon as well.

My biggest issue was with the damn blimp. It sounded like it was hovering 15 feet above the booth. There isn't any kind of sound filter they can use so it doesn't drone over the entire broadcast? They didn't even really use that many blimp shots to be honest.
 
I can't relate to anyone who thinks Joe Buck did even a remotely serviceable job throughout that coverage. The extra shot trackers were nice (although frequently off by a huge margin) but the rest of the coverage was complete garbage. Azinger was the only borderline competent announcer and he's still rough around the edges.

Beyond the absurdity of Holly Saunders playing monitor bimbo or the pointlessness of "cup microphones," the discussion of everything outside the pre-recorded specials was as shallow as last year. What iron is the player hitting? No idea. Where did the ball land? Cameras routinely panned around aimlessly. What are player X's tendencies? No idea. Let's analyze the swing of one of these newcomers the public doesn't know very well - oh wait let's not because nobody knows jack shit about the mechanics of the golf swing. Let's show a bunch of Ryan Brehm shots but ignore Xander and Haas as they tie Fowler for a top 5. And please let's replay the 10 minute Kevin Na discussion about a 120 yard tee shot 3 times because he's a youtube sensation instead of showing live golf.

Fox's shit coverage is a disservice to the US Open. They should have been forced to cover a few middling PGA Tour or silly season events before taking on the US Open.
 
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