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Israel Attacked and its Response

Can’t make this up - US finally calls for an immediate and sustained ceasefire at the UN and Russia and China veto the resolution. What exactly is the point of the UN at this point?
 
KingCurtis said:
Can’t make this up - US finally calls for an immediate and sustained ceasefire at the UN and Russia and China veto the resolution. What exactly is the point of the UN at this point?
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The terms of the US resolution were such that they knew it wouldn’t pass. It’s tantamount to demanding that Hamas surrender, which is the same bullshit that Israel’s war cabinet has been demanding. “We’ll keep starving and bombing Gaza until Hamas surrenders” - even acknowledging these terms as legitimate basically approves of Israel’s war crimes as acceptable tactics.
 
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You have to keep in mind that none of the UN members are allies with Palestine or Hamas, and half of them don’t even officially recognize Palestine as an independent nation, so they have no real leverage to make demands of Hamas. Israel is a member of the UN and gets billions in aid from UN members.

Qatar, Jordan, and Syria are the only world nations that Hamas even trusts to act as a neutral host for negotiations.

The global calls for a ceasefire are not on behalf of Hamas, as much as propagandists might lie about them, they are on behalf of Palestinian civilians, so the US calling for a ceasefire resolution, on behalf of Israel, is outlandish.
 
Wow, what a fucking lie. 139 of the UN members recognize Palestine. Algeria, Guinea, Ecuador, Sierra Leone and Malta do, all on the Security Council. Russia and China, veto holding members recognized Palestine as well. Algeria was the first to recognize Palestine. More probably do, a simple google check can let you know.

See the General Assembly resolutions condemning Zionism over the years.

Hamas are fucking terrorists that struck first again this time.

To quote you, "Qatar, Jordan, and Syria are the only world nations that Hamas even trusts to act as a neutral host for negotiations." Then why aren't they accepting the refugees from this war?

Oh, and you forgot Iran who funds these bastards.
 
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centerdeac said:
Wow, what a fucking lie. 139 of the UN members recognize Palestine. Algeria, Guinea, Ecuador, Sierra Leone and Malta do, all on the Security Council. Russia and China, veto holding members recognized Palestine as well. Algeria was the first to recognize Palestine. More probably do, a simple google check can let you know.
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You are correct about my misstatement, that it’s more than half. My post and perspective aren’t contingent upon whether 50% or 65% of UN members recognize the State of Palestine, because my post was about power and legitimacy.

Algeria, Guinea, Ecuador, Sierra Leone, and Malta - what do those countries have in common? They don’t have any power or influence over global politics.

As for Russia and China, they aren’t allies with Palestine or Hamas, they aren’t supplying them with billions in aid and weapons, they aren’t protecting Palestine with war ships.

The most recent federal budget that just passed provides Israel 3.8 billion, defunds the UNRWA, and basically sanctions the UN for the Commission of Inquiry against Israel. Those points will be defended as necessary compromises.
 
centerdeac said:
No, was it the U.S.'s fault?

And who shot first on October 7th?
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Dude, don't bother.

Its wild people think this way, but apparently they do.. As best I can tell, it's a whole lotta white guilt and a desire to stop colonizers to make up for their ancestors actions or something, mixed with some good ole fashioned antisemitism.

Meanwhile, no outrage from these guys or the Muslim world regarding Syria. Hmm.. I wonder why.

 
Way to not answer. No, we're merely letting him kill his own people with impunity. Thanks, Obama, Trump and Biden!
 
centerdeac said:
Way to not answer. No, we're merely letting him kill his own people with impunity.
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Does the US have a diplomatic relationship with Syria?

Do we have any basis on which we could intervene without igniting world war 3?

Are y’all raising the issue of Syrian crimes against humanity to avoid the issue of Israel’s crimes against humanity?

Y’all are dumb af man
 
Syria severed diplomatic ties in the wake of the 1967 war with Israel. I have been in favor of intervention since Syria crossed Obama's red line. How am I trivializing that travesty?

As for the Palestinians, I pray every day for the hostages to come home and the cease fire to start. I fear an attack on Rafah would be a calamity. But they shot first here, and Hamas should get no quarter until it releases the hostages and even then should continue to be seen as a terrorist organization.
 
centerdeac, do you think all Palestinians are Hamas or are you just ignoring the deaths of Palestinian civilians?
 
Obviously not, since Hamas doesn't control the West Bank. How am I ignoring the deaths of civilians? I've said my peace about further attacks, but who shot first?

If the internet existed, people like you would have been attacking Israel in 1967 and 1973.
 
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